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tesla
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Message 137 of 154 (445791)
01-03-2008 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by molbiogirl
01-01-2008 6:38 PM


Re: questions
imagine invisible did raise one very valid question, although i'm not sure how on topic it would be:
is this site frequented by scientist who are debating for the truth, or debating to "win" an argument?
Edited by tesla, : spelling

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 138 of 154 (445797)
01-03-2008 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by arachnophilia
01-03-2008 10:34 PM


Re: questions
i tell you : if evidence was shown that God was , it is not silly to say it would be rejected, and the scientist who proved it called a fool, or even considered crazy.
how many great scientist in history were considered crazy in their day, only to be glorified in the science books of tomorrow?
Edited by tesla, : spelling
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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 142 of 154 (445832)
01-04-2008 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by obvious Child
01-04-2008 1:17 AM


Re: questions
What is truth?
As people who understand science, we should understand that what we believe may not be entirely true, that it is subject to new information that may change it, leave it alone or completely refute it.
to most things in science this can apply. but some things are truths that cannot be refuted. for instance, you cannot deny that your typing on a keyboard. ill agree with this statement for the most part though
People here I believe are merely trying to dispute what does not make sense (at least in the science sections). Aka, all species existed at the same time prior to the flood.
and I'm very glad they do, because unless something is debated, the "kinks" cant be worked out. it is sad to me that scientist have had to work within the funding of the government in this country and are so very limited to only studying accepted "proven" science, when so much of science was discovered by asking questions about what was not known.
But one must also understand that all debate centers around what the audience thinks.
so very true, and only when a person changes the way they look at things, does what they look at change.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Message 143 of 154 (445833)
01-04-2008 1:33 AM
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01-04-2008 1:19 AM


Re: questions
Crazy?
Not many.
Their ideas without evidence?
Many. But that changes with evidence.
yes, but until the question is asked, or a law understood, no evidence can hope to be found.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 148 of 154 (445899)
01-04-2008 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by sidelined
01-04-2008 6:47 AM


Re: questions
Since none has ever provided evidence of God we cannot say that the evidence would be rejected nor the scientist providing it considered crazy.
i have, and who here has agreed with me?
existence is real, so you say in science its a condition. but a condition is a real able to be studied environment by science definition. another poster once made the statement that scientists must take for granted what they are studying "exists"
if you look at existence within those terms, a "real" condition, then its able to be studied by science. the problem is everyone is looking for a "cause" of existence, when existence is the energy that the "cause" of the universes existence is based on.
you can say that it would "appear" that something can come from nothing, but its impossible to suggest that something can come from "literally" nothing.
which leads to defining existence as real, and real means a singular energy, which leads to my definition under scientific scrutiny.
to suggest anything other than that would mean that you do not take existing literal, and would have to conclude that its possible you don't exist at all. who would accept such a thing? are you not sitting there?
i didn't bring this here to call you stupid or stagnate science, i came here to bring you revelation that's so simple and obvious its been taken for granted and overlooked, and that by observance of it that science would be reborn and forced to "keep digging"
so in effect, i have offered "proof of God".

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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