Sorry - I've come late to this topic, so apologies for any repetition of later themes.
In an earlier quote in this thread you ask what will come next after the apparent stalling of 'Trojan Horse' ID. I think we already have a partial answer: home schooling. If the school system can't be changed, then remove the children from the percieved corrosive environment and teach them your truth at home.
But this isn't the whole story. I think the desire to challenge scientific method on its own terms is great. When, as with our society, technological development is so visible and integrated with everyday life, people seem predisposed to view science and scientific investigation as somehow legitimate. To try and find a way of legitimise creationism in these scientific terms - if only superficially, to satisfy those with a weaker grasp of science itself - must surely be the holy grail of Creationist sophists. My guess is that their next aim will be to find a novel, punchy approach which gives the resemblance of scientific rigour to their ideas.
The fundamental question though is this: has ID failed? I'm not sure it has. When furvent ID believers try to engage scientists in debate, the scientific inadequacy of their preferred doctrine is made visible - but think of all the people for whom the veneer of 'sciencosity' on creationism is suficient to still their curiosity, and who don't feel the need to debate. There must be so many of them, and with them, the inventors of ID have triumphed.
(Its a bit like all the people who still believe that the rigorously secular Saddam Hussein had secret sympathies for Islamic nutters, despite the deafening roar of the void where the supporting evidence should be.)
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