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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
Hello all!
Ray Comfort, the infamous evangelist who debated the Rational Response Squad a few months ago on Dateline, has opened his own blog complete with a Comments section. He writes on the blog almost every day, and people have a chance to argue about what he writes (which usually centers on evolution and atheism). Ray also takes an active part in the debate. Here's the site: Words of Comfort -- Ray Comfort's Blog. There are a few evolutionists there like myself who attempt to debate with the creationists. However, I believe that some people in this forum could contribute to the discussion in a better way than I can. Anybody who wants to join is welcome to come over. I used to read Ray Comfort's books and listen to his sermons; I believed every word that he said or wrote. After seeing science and religion in a different light, it's nice to be able to confront him (in a polite way, of course). Thanks!
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
So I go to the blog and read the Friday, January 4, 2008, entry, Wise Words From Richard Dawkins, and I'm preparing my response in my mind as I read, and I get to the end and find this:
Ray Comfort writes: PLEASE NOTE: We will be giving the subject of evolution a break for a while. So, please don't spend time writing long emails to try and justify why you believe in the theory, because they will not be posted. The subject becomes tiresome after a while. Thanks for all your interesting thoughts. Does this mean that that blog entry is no longer accepting comments? Or is it a request to not send email directly to Ray? If he's not accepting comments on that blog entry anymore then I suggest we comment on it here. I can move the thread to the evolution forum. --Percy
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
so... many... pratts... brain.... exploding....
and did he SERIOUSLY just cite stephen jay gould AND richard dawkins for creationism? wtf. edit: i posted. let's see if he lets it through. Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given. Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
Hey Percy,
Does this mean that that blog entry is no longer accepting comments? Or is it a request to not send email directly to Ray? He usually screened our comments before posting them, and until now he's been very accomodating; as long as the post didn't have a curse word, it was usually posted without edits, no matter how much the post disagreed with his blog entry. But now, for whatever reason, he says that he's tired of the evolution debate. Any comment that attempts to argue with his ridiculous blog entry will not be posted in the Comments section. To me, it seems like he's attempting to shut down the arguments and then proclaim himself the victor (which is what many Christians on the site immediately started proclaiming). It's not very honest, and it's quite infuriating.
If he's not accepting comments on that blog entry anymore then I suggest we comment on it here. I can move the thread to the evolution forum. Yeah, sounds good to me. Still, I just wish that this guy would shut up. I don't mind people questioning science or whatever, but Ray writes so many ridiculous things that it just drives me insane. Whatever, though. It's his blog and he can do what he wants. I'll keep checking it, though, to see if he comes around.
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
so... many... pratts... brain.... exploding.... and did he SERIOUSLY just cite stephen jay gould AND richard dawkins for creationism? wtf. Yes, I feel exactly the same way. There's not an excuse for citing evolutionists to somehow disprove evolution. It's almost funny: on page 127 of the The God Delusion, Dawkins writes how creationists misrepresent the Cambrian over and over and over, without ever correcting themselves. I cited this passage for Ray, but, incidently, that was when he disabled comments concerning evolution. Yeah, it's almost funny, if it wasn't so sad. Read the comments; see how people listen to this guy. It's frustrating.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2664 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
He usually screened our comments before posting them, and until now he's been very accomodating; as long as the post didn't have a curse word, it was usually posted without edits, no matter how much the post disagreed with his blog entry. Any idea how long it usually takes? I posted a completely inoffensive comment last night and it has yet to appear. I simply provided support for your assertion that Einstein believed in Spinoza's god by posting 3 references. Edited by molbiogirl, : sp
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
holy crap he posted my comment.
and look at all the typos! awesome. edit: and here it is:
quote: Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Any idea how long it usually takes? I posted a completely inoffensive comment last night and it has yet to appear. I simply provided support for your assertion that Einstein believed in Spinoza's god by posting 3 references. if the references contain links, your comment will not be posted. i think they have a very strict screening scipt that automatically weeds out message with links, lest they be spam. otherwise, porn-spamming would be a real hoot.
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
Whoops. Double post
Edited by taylor_31, : No reason given.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
found here
original post writes: 3. Abraham: True, God told Abraham to offer his only son, and when he was about to kill him, God stopped him. It is important to understand that this incident is a picture of God actually giving His only begotten Son to suffer on the cross for our sins. Such is His love and mercy for rebels such as us. quote: ray comfort writes: << it's really the same as any other offering -- done of a willing heart, not god's demand. the test was of abraham's heart, not his obedience. >> Could you explain the above. I can't seem to separate the two. Thanks. ray comfort writes: << abraham... let's look at that a little more closely. it says that god told abraham to — , —— or ha-alehu sham l'olah. literally, "raise him up for a burnt offering" or "bring him to be a burnt offering" "offer" isn't exactly the right word in the sense of "hey, you want this?" >> You make a good point. That is the implication. my forthcoming response, once it gets through the filters:
quote: maybe i'll blow his mind with the backwards interpretation next. we'll see... Edited by arachnophilia, : formatting |
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
Any idea how long it usually takes? It usually doesn't take very long; perhaps a day at most. I did see your post, and thanks for the support! Sometimes I wonder if he even listens, though. Lately he's posted a load of crap about his personal doctrines and how most of America's Christians are not "real" converts. I might post something tomorrow in reply if I can.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Lately he's posted a load of crap about his personal doctrines and how most of America's Christians are not "real" converts. I might post something tomorrow in reply if I can. i'm thinking of responding to that. i'll have to be very careful. but brenna recently potmed me for a similar topic here, so... i'm thinking it might be fun to invite him here. what do you guys think?
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2664 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
i'm thinking it might be fun to invite him here. what do you guys think? Do it!
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
Hey everybody,
Sorry if Ray's blog has been a little disappointing. It's still a great opportunity to communicate with him, but it hasn't been the experience that I hoped it would be. I didn't think he'd stop the science debate so quickly, especially when there were several of us adamantly contesting his claims. Also, he usually replies in maddeningly short sentences that completely miss the point of the argument. He also has has an army of like-minded Christians who support him in everything he writes; they can gang up quickly. It's a bit frustrating. Still, I'm going to keep posting and see if I can continue any sort of dialogue, even if I embarrass myself.
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taylor_31 Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 86 From: Oklahoma! Joined: |
i'm thinking it might be fun to invite him here. what do you guys think? Heh, I think that would be a lot of fun. I don't see how we could possibly persuade him to visit, however; I'm sure he receives similar invitations all the time. But if he really is so confident about his beliefs, what does he have to lose?
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