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AdminPaul
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Message 16 of 134 (446509)
01-06-2008 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by MartinV
01-06-2008 2:28 PM


Re: Complaint
This is not the place to discuss the relevance. The point is that you need to include such an explanation in your OP. (I will warn you - in the hope that you will improve your OP - that you are ignoring information in your source which seriously undercuts the simplistic argument that you raise).
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Message 17 of 134 (446542)
01-06-2008 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by AdminPaul
01-06-2008 2:40 PM


Re: Complaint
Thank you but the dispute is over. The thread will not be released to free discussion. AdminPD reccomendations are unacceptable for me.

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molbiogirl
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Message 18 of 134 (446609)
01-06-2008 6:12 PM


Just out of curiosity
Despite Sinequanon's topic, "Spiders are intelligent", he has agreed to provide a definition of intelligence only if a moderator agrees to adjudicate.
What that would involve, I don't know.
Would anyone be interested?

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 19 of 134 (446618)
01-06-2008 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by MartinV
01-06-2008 10:32 AM


Re: Complaint
look. i read the post and i didn't think it had a question in it. it's not about neodarwinianism, it's about being able to make a competent post. ok so we don't necessarily know why testicles dangle outside the bodies of mammals. great. since it's a terrible idea, does this make it an argument for id or something?
come up with a real question to ask and then someone will promote it.

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AdminNWR
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Message 20 of 134 (446622)
01-06-2008 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by molbiogirl
01-06-2008 6:12 PM


Re: Just out of curiosity
I took him as asking an admin to adjudicate on whether he was required to define "intelligence."
In a sense, his opening post implicitly defines "intelligence" to be the same as "instinct". Unsurprisingly, people disagree.


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Message 21 of 134 (446648)
01-06-2008 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by AdminNWR
01-06-2008 6:32 PM


Re: Just out of curiosity
I took him as asking an admin to adjudicate on whether he was required to define "intelligence."
Yes, this is what I was asking.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 22 of 134 (446837)
01-07-2008 10:55 AM


admin buz
oh look. admin buz is acting in a thread he's active in against someone he disagrees with when he's incapable of defending his own baseless claims.
http://EvC Forum: Huckabee -->EvC Forum: Huckabee
Brennakimi, this vulger, uncivil and inflamitory response is a violation of the following in item 10 of Forum Guidelines.
i don't consider "bullshit" to be a vulgar word. get over yourself.

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 23 of 134 (446858)
01-07-2008 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by macaroniandcheese
01-07-2008 10:55 AM


Re: admin buz
1. I had not been active in that thread for quite a long time at the time I issued the warning. There had been over 20 messages since my last parcipation.
2. My action had nothing to do with me or anything I posted.
3. This is suppose to be a fair and balanced board. As I stated, Obvious Child's violation was similar to yours.
4. You may not consider the term to be vulgar, but by and large it is considered to be a vulgar word in the public fora.
5. In the context, the demeanor of the response may seen by one's debate counterpart as inflamitory in nature which is not conducive to keeping the peace at EvC.
We're not a board of prudes here but a respectable cite. Let's keep it civil as per Forum Guidelines with a reasonable concern for respect to one another.
Perhaps it would be good for you to go back four messages from my warnng and note NWR's exemplary response to a similar situation. His response was . "That is clearly untrue."

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jar
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Message 24 of 134 (446861)
01-07-2008 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by AdminBuzsaw
01-07-2008 11:32 AM


Re: admin buz
I'm sorry Buz but bullshit is bullshit. And it is time we started pointing out bullshit for what it is; bullshit.

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 25 of 134 (446863)
01-07-2008 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by AdminBuzsaw
01-07-2008 11:32 AM


Re: admin buz
1. I had not been active in that thread for quite a long time at the time I issued the warning. There had been over 20 messages since my last parcipation.
i'm unimpressed.
3. This is suppose to be a fair and balanced board. As I stated, Obvious Child's violation was similar to yours.
you mean like how you break the rules with each and every post you make by refusing to post any evidence for all your ridiculous claims and then play moral police on the rest of us?
4. You may not consider the term to be vulgar, but by and large it is considered to be a vulgar word in the public fora.
really? lets have a poll.
5. In the context, the demeanor of the response may seen by one's debate counterpart as inflamitory in nature which is not conducive to keeping the peace at EvC.
sucks. also. i think you missed a verb.
Perhaps it would be good for you to go back four messages from my warnng and note NWR's exemplary response to a similar situation. His response was . "That is clearly untrue."
and that's nwr's style. not mine. the individual i was responding to responded to me civilly and the discussion has continued thenceforth without issue. i think the problem here is one of moralizing on your part, especially considering the subjective nature of your plaint.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

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ringo
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Message 26 of 134 (446885)
01-07-2008 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by AdminBuzsaw
01-07-2008 11:32 AM


Re: admin buz
First, it's questionable to be posting and moderating in the same thread. If you're going to use nwr as a model poster, use Percy as a model admin.
Second, it's questionable to use your admin status in a partisan manner to defend your buddy's bullshit.
Third, it's laughable to use your admin status in such a petty manner - to bitch about one little word.

“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 27 of 134 (446893)
01-07-2008 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by ringo
01-07-2008 12:56 PM


Re: admin buz
Ringo, being one of two moderators for ideological balance in moderation it may be necessary to moderate in the same forum we participate.
As for your suggestion that I use Percy for moderation example, he along with other admins regularly moderate in forums which they have partipated in.
I think it's quite disingenuous and in violation of Forum Guidelines for you to disregard Admim action as you have here by the usage of vulgarity and uncivil wordage which I advised against.
That's all I have to say regarding this matter (abe: for now). I'll leave it for other admins to rule on, given the controversial aspect of it.
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : clarification

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ringo
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Message 28 of 134 (446897)
01-07-2008 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by AdminBuzsaw
01-07-2008 1:16 PM


Re: admin buz
AdminBuzsaw writes:
I'll leave it for other admins to rule on, given the controversial aspect of it.
Now you've got it right.

“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 29 of 134 (446900)
01-07-2008 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by AdminBuzsaw
01-07-2008 1:16 PM


Re: admin buz
ideological balance
what exactly does ideology have to do with discussion moderation? NOTHING.

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molbiogirl
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Message 30 of 134 (446917)
01-07-2008 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by macaroniandcheese
01-07-2008 10:55 AM


Re: admin buz
Brenna, you're right.
If Buz is going to be even-handed then he should warn everyone who uses the word.
Let's see, as of today, that would be 76 times in the last month alone.

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