Anyone else notice this pattern?

and you are so right. Are you creationist and here to prove your point?

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So, I have noticed that many of the Creationists on this board have, shall we say, less than stellar writing skills compared to the science-minded folks.

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Is it compared to or compared with?

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Sure, there are a few exceptions, but I would guess that well more than two thirds of the Creationists who have ever posted here simply write very poorly.

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If this sentence is an example of your good writing skills, then you need to learn the meaning of the word verbose and redundant.

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Their grammar and punctuation ranges from average to downright awful, they frequently fail to break their posts into paragraphs, and their ability to express ideas, sentence structure and word usage doesn't give one an impression of their having done very well in high school English.

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The above is one of the most pathetic sentences I have read, particularly from a self-styled expert on the subject. Let's try it this way:"The grammar and punctuation of creationists range from average to below. Often, they fail to correctly express ideas, have poor sentence structure and vocabulary and, thereby, give the impression of flunking first grade English."

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On a related note, my husband frequents a message board populated by people who work in higher education. Not surprisingly, most posters there write well, and express themselves clearly and often eloquently.

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I recommend you frequent the same message board as does your husband, and review with him what you have learned to improve your abilities.

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Every so often a controversial subject such as Affirmative Action comes up in discussion, and he has noticed that of those people who pop up to write posts condemning it, many of them possess markedly poor writing skills.

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In 25 words or less, write an essay outlining the basics of affirmative action.

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So, why does everyone think this pattern exists?

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I think this pattern exists, because you and your kind have not, will not, cannot learn the meaning of brevity in expression. You also cannot, will not, have not learned it takes all kinds. You are a magnificent case in point.

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I can relate to that as well, Phat. Having no college degree, I've had to learn as I go. EvC participation has effected ongoing improvement of communication and debating skills.

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Hi,Buz:
May I help you out by saying the word you want is 'affected'. As for the word 'ongoing'? It is a poor substitute for the word continuing, since you cannot conjugate it. Unless it is acceptable to say ... ongo, ongoing, ongone, onwent. Have a good day.As for a college degree and excellent English? Don't you believe it. It is a myth, one that likes to be perpetuated by the intelligentsia.Edited by ThreeDogs, : No reason given.

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Ken Ham does very well at writing his ideas and performs well when communicating to laymen of both sides. Many of the "scientists" at Answers in Genesis" are also skilled writers. I have seen them talk or write loops around those detractors that they deign to include in their discussions.

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Caveat: Anyone with a well thought out question or comment in opposition gets ignored or, if it occurs in public, gets side tracked with what Ham and his ilk think is a nifty little logic counter punch to avoid answering the question.

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The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.

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True, I know of one creationist with good spelling, grammar and paragraph construction.

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But he can't argue his way out of a paper bag, due to sever logic failure.

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At first glance, this appears contradictory and also at second glance.

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Now, I have wondered whether creationists were bad at logic because of creationist teaching, or whether people bad at logic were creationist because of bad logic, which of course can just be the ad hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.... but then I've known people with logical aphasia that are just as bad arguing FOR science (one working on his masters).

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This paragraph contains a degree of honesty that may easily serve as an example to the chance critic.

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Nor are people satisfied with their current life-style interested in an education or learning anything outside their rose garden.

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Another quality observation. Do you take your own counsel?

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poepel aer godo ta nociting patrens evne tohgh ti mya nto eb a parten.

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People are good at noticing patterns even though it may not be a pattern.I do believe you have put your finger on what makes the world go round.

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someone spends too much time with his thesaurus in his lap.

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If you mean me, then the answer is not. I confess to something softer for that locus.

Therefore, the discussion about ongoing is an ongone discussion.

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The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.

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You are so right, there is nothing endearing about a controvertist. However, if one is regularly exposed to him and his ploys, acute awareness of such ploys is a must. You should try it. It puts hair on your chest.

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That might adversely effect my income from Internet porn.

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The word is affect. You're on welfare, huh?What my pronouns refer to? Yikes!Edited by ThreeDogs, : No reason given.

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Just a footnote, ThreeDogs. When I first came to Evc, some of the conversations around here frustrated me to no end. I was challenged in my thinking and I thought to myself that surely I was right and they were all on crack!
If you can stand the intensity and yet be polite enough to the other members with whom you disagree, you will eventually like it here!

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I did quite a bit of reading here before I signed up. One poster stands out with unabashed bias against creationists and provokes the observation of being anti-human rights. I felt it needed to be addressed.I don't mind intensity, I'm short-voiced and that is grounds. I feel no need for change. I expect adults of a certain intelligence register to speak past their prejudices. Ha, ha!

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We certainly like humorous debates, conducted in good fun and with respect for each other! Stick around!

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Phat, what were you thinking? Do you want me to consider the term bible thumper to be respectful? (See your following post)I'll be here now and then, when I think I can contribute something to understanding. My main concerns are the preponderance of the intelligentsia to be convinced of their magnificence, when they mostly regurgitate stuff that was regurgitated to them and none exhibit original thought. If they have one, they would not let on where Dr. Jock Crock can steal it and claim it for his own.It's one thing to be challenged in your thinking, it's another to give up who you are because someone uses your insecurities against you. See you later.Oh, how I love Denver. The foothills in Spring and the larks trilling their music ...

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Bible Thumper

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You meant it in a respectful way, right?