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Author Topic:   Global Futurism. A discussion of impending issues
Mespo
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From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA
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Message 203 of 241 (447964)
01-11-2008 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by molbiogirl
01-11-2008 5:00 AM


Can we get off the Nuclear Holocaust Schtick for a while?
There isn't going to be a nuclear exchange with Russia or any other nuclear power in the foreseeable future. Period!
Putin is having too much fun making money.
China is having WAY too much fun making money.
Pakistan is reserving its nukes for India.
India is reserving its nukes for Pakistan and busy answering "800" informercial calls.
Israel will continue to maintain it's "virtual" nuclear arsenal.
The English will continue to sip their tea at 4:00PM
The French will continue to drink their wine.
The US will continue to look for boogey men to pick a fight with.
...and the REAL issue for millions on people around the globe will be...
"How do I continue to pay for fuel without going broke?"
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Besides. As I've said before. No one is going to drop a bomb on Tierra del Fuego. (They don't care about us. We don't care about them)
(:raig

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Mespo
Member (Idle past 2910 days)
Posts: 158
From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA
Joined: 09-19-2002


Message 205 of 241 (447983)
01-11-2008 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by molbiogirl
01-11-2008 2:43 PM


Re: Can we get off the Nuclear Holocaust Schtick for a while?
Russia has huge oil and gas reserves. That's where real global power comes in. Putin isn't going to mess with the Russian version of Capitalism (99 kopecs for me. 1 kopec for you)
But the End of Worlders REALLY have to come up with a new boogey man. The Russian military is still very anemic compared to the glory days of the Red Army. Besides, has anyone asked the Russians if they really give a damn about Israel?
...and the Chinese are going to march all the way across Asia to kick some ass in the Middle East? Don't think so.
What's a DoomsDayer to do? Tiz a puzzlement.
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Meanwhile, back on the home front...
The jump of farmers onto the ethanol bandwagon here in the U.S. has sent grain prices up. What really hasn't sunk in yet with the whole biofuels debate, is the fact that there is only a fixed amount of arable land. If you take X amount of acreage out for biofuels, that leaves Y amount for everything else, with the consequent supply and demand effects.
And least we forget...
"Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink". Bad drinking water will kill people much faster than any pandemic imaginable.
(:raig

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Mespo
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From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA
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Message 237 of 241 (449639)
01-18-2008 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by Phat
01-17-2008 6:26 PM


Re: Back to the Topic
Not too many posting slots left, so here goes.
This will be from the gut, as I don't have any supporting links and references at this time...
Global warming preventable? NO. The horse is out of the barn. In case you haven't noticed, the Indians (India) and Chinese want what the Americans and Europeans want. And we're going to tell them NO? Hardly!
Coastal populations will relocate by walking. What mankind has done for eons. The question remains as to whose property they'll relocate to.
Wars? There will always be wars. Period. Over available water, arable land, nukes, oil...you name it. War is good for the military-industrial complex, don't 'cha know. The Americans didn't learn squat from the Vietnam debacle, now did they?
Can humanity maintain the U.S. standrad of living? Nope. The haves will continue to have, and the have nots will go hungry. But wars will not be used as a way out. The haves will gladly give to the have nots if they can be seen as "do-gooders" to build their self-esteem and global social standing. Good will is a tradable commodity, also.
Who knows, the "Great Unwashed" may become trading partners. They can assemble beads and trinkets for $1 a day.
I firmly believe that the whole "climate change" schtick will be a generational thing. In other words, no one human generation is going to get hit with the whole good and bad. You will hold your grand children on your knee and tell them about the time there were actual glaciers in Alaska and pine forests in the American Southwest that hadn't burned to the ground. And they will tell you about their reality of Carnaval Cruise ships in the Artic, apple orchards in Siberia, and the Great Florida Reef that used to be a state in the U.S.
(:raig

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Mespo
Member (Idle past 2910 days)
Posts: 158
From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA
Joined: 09-19-2002


Message 241 of 241 (450857)
01-24-2008 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Phat
01-20-2008 4:24 PM


Re: Back to the Topic
Phat writes:
That was my thought as well! Perhaps the property a couple hundred miles back from the coast is a good investment right about now
That's going to be a bit hard for the Hawaiians, Tahitians and all those folks in the Caribbean, don't 'cha think?
BTW - This was probably before your time, but during the late 60's-70's there was a lot of buzz about California breaking off and sliding into the Pacfic from all the earthquakes. A few enterprising real estate brokers advertised arid land on the Western border of Nevada as the "New Pacific coastline" and actually got buyers. P.T. Barnum would have been proud.
(:raig

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