your claiming its your house when its not actually your house. being a member of a religion is like being a guest in someones house....
Not at all. A member is not a guest.
lets say my house resembles my religion. I invite you as a guest in my house. You are nothing more then a guest in my house. you have no right to tear down my house, since it is my house and I'm the owner. You have no authority, understand?
But you have authority. Understand? You have every right to rebuild your own house and the members of a club have every right to rebuild their clubhouse.
last time I checked, a member of a religion is nothing more then just a member.
You've been checking in the wrong place. The members are the church.
a member is just a guest..
Nonsense. A member and a guest are completely different things.
“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels
I'm sorry but its only a whole when you got every person in and of the religion to agree.
Say what?
Moses changed the religion. Samuel changed the religion. Jesus changed the religion. Paul changed the religion. Mohamed changed the religion. Luther changed the religion. Maurice, Elector of Saxony changed the religion. Pope Pius IV changed the religion. Henry VIII changed the religion. James I & VI changed the religion. Pope Pius IX changed the religion. Joe Smith changed the religion.
Moses changed the religion. Samuel changed the religion. Jesus changed the religion. Paul changed the religion. Mohamed changed the religion. Luther changed the religion. Maurice, Elector of Saxony changed the religion. Pope Pius IV changed the religion. Henry VIII changed the religion. James I & VI changed the religion. Pope Pius IX changed the religion. Joe Smith changed the religion.
From what I can see, you only gave me 10 Leaders that lead different groups of people, though they have something in common, of which they created different groups in only 1 Religion. You gave me 12 names, so let me break it down for you. There were only 2 people that actually made a religion. 1) Jesus Christ: Christianity, which the term Christian is derived from the name Christ, therefor Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. 2)Muhammad: was the founder of Islam: is a monotheistic Abrahamic religion originating with the teachings of Muhammad.
The other people created Groups and named them after themselves, therefor I know what direction the 10 groups teachings go and what religion they belong under. They Belong under Christianity.
Say what? Well from the name of the people you gave me, it seems only 2 are Founders of 2 separate religions.
Ringo writes:
the members of a club have every right to rebuild their clubhouse.
Depends, did they tear it down and start from scratch or did they decide to keep the furniture, then mess around for a little bit?
Ringo writes:
Not at all. A member is not a guest.
Wow... Can you actually lay down some facts or something please, cause your annoying me with this "No" and "thats nonsense". So how about you try and convince me why you are right and why I'm wrong or you can shut up and get out of my topic, what do you say to that?
Ringo writes:
Nonsense. A member and a guest are completely different things.
Well why don't you explain to me why and stop this "nonsense" bullshit or shut up and get out of my topic. Thank you.
quote:the members of a club have every right to rebuild their clubhouse.
Depends, did they tear it down and start from scratch or did they decide to keep the furniture, then mess around for a little bit?
Doesn't matter a bit. They have every right to do whatever they want with the clubhouse they own - from polishing the doorknob to demolishing the whole thing and starting over.
quote:A member is not a guest.
Wow... Can you actually lay down some facts or something please, cause your annoying me with this "No" and "thats nonsense". So how about you try and convince me why you are right and why I'm wrong or you can shut up and get out of my topic, what do you say to that?
I say: Why don't you respond to the point instead of just ranting?
A member of a club is not a guest. A member has full privileges. He can bring a guest to enjoy limited privileges.
A member of a country club can play golf, use the steam room, reserve the ballroom for his daughter's wedding reception, attend the annual business meeting and vote on club business. He can bring a friend as his guest and the guest can play golf with the member, maybe even use the steam room with the member - but the guest can't reserve the ballroom, attend the business meeting or vote on anything.
That's the difference between a member and a guest.
Now, why can't the members decide to rebuild the clubhouse?
“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels
From what I can see, you only gave me 10 Leaders that lead different groups of people, though they have something in common, of which they created different groups in only 1 Religion.
You really seem to know nothing about religious history.
After each of the people I mention, religion changed.
Stop and actually look at religion, try to learn something about religion.
Let me give you a hint or three.
You said:
quote:There were only 2 people that actually made a religion. 1) Jesus Christ: Christianity, which the term Christian is derived from the name Christ, therefor Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.
There is a club called the "Baker Street Irregulars". Who founded the Baker Street Irregulars?
Second, look at the list of folk I named. Find out what part each one played.
Third, a religion is more than just a name, it is the sum of the rules established for membership. Return to what you learned above and see if after each of these folk the rules for membership did not change.
You really seem to know nothing about religious history.
1)I didn't ask to be insulted. 2)Don't tell me what I do and do not know. 3)Don't give me your advice, because I never asked for it.
jar writes:
After each of the people I mention, religion changed.
Christianity is a religion! members of the catholic church are Christians! members of the baptist church are Christians! if someone is a member of the catholic church, then he is called a catholic, but thats just because the catholic church is 1 of many branches in Christianity and remains 1 of the most Dominate Religion to this day. List of Christian denominations - Wikipedia
jaw writes:
Stop and actually look at religion, try to learn something about religion.
I do, so I suggest you to do the same. Why would I take your advice, when you obviously don't even follow threw on your own advice.
jar writes:
Let me give you a hint or three.
No I will not let you.
Third, a religion is more than just a name, it is the sum of the rules established for membership.
If you will go back, after each of the people I mentioned in Message 64,
Moses changed the religion. Samuel changed the religion. Jesus changed the religion. Paul changed the religion. Mohamed changed the religion. Luther changed the religion. Maurice, Elector of Saxony changed the religion. Pope Pius IV changed the religion. Henry VIII changed the religion. James I & VI changed the religion. Pope Pius IX changed the religion. Joe Smith changed the religion.
the religion changed.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
There is no such thing as "THE" Religion. Okay jar, just to make sure me & you are on the same page, please tell me: What is "THE" Religion? or What Religion are you talking about?
Sup ICANT, and welcome to my thread. I'm quiet a busy bee this month, but jut be patient and I'll try to reply back to your post ASAP. I'm tired and going off to bed, take care.
ps: I'll post my reply during this month, not after this month, just so you know.
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