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Granny Magda
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Message 4 of 54 (450427)
01-21-2008 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Larni
01-21-2008 4:16 PM


Personally, I would like to challenge Tesla to write a single post without using the words "energy" or "reality".

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Message 7 of 54 (450459)
01-22-2008 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by LucyTheApe
01-21-2008 11:53 PM


Re: The greatest force of all
Lucy, I am afraid that you are quite wrong. Gravity just seems to be the most powerful force, because it governs our everyday lives. Some quotes from "Just Six Numbers" by astronomer royal, Martin Rees;
Martin Rees writes:
Despite its importance for us, for our biosphere and for our cosmos, gravity is actually amazingly feeble when compared with the other forces that affect atoms. {emphasis in original}
later Rees says;
It is because gravity is so weak that a typical star like the sun is so massive. In any lesser aggregate, gravity could not compete with the pressure, nor squeeze the material hot and dense enough to make it shine.
At a molecular level, for instance, gravity is so minute as to be negligible. Sidelined is correct.

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Message 16 of 54 (450649)
01-23-2008 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by teen4christ
01-22-2008 2:06 PM


Re: The greatest force of all
You make a fair point. Our existence depends on all forces and the fine balance between them. Gravity just seems a little more obvious to me (and apparently to LucytheApe), but what is obvious is ultimately a subjective judgement. The answer will vary from person to person.

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Message 18 of 54 (452414)
01-30-2008 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by tesla
01-28-2008 9:51 PM


Re: The greatest force of all
Hi Tesla,
tesla writes:
i said G-force (short for "the great force") which is what i was taught it was called. it isn't very well understood, but it is considered infinitly more powerful than gravity.
That is where the confusion arises then. There is no such force as "the great force", at least, if there is, then that is not what physicists call it. Perhaps you mean the strong nuclear force or the weak nuclear force. If so it would help if you referred to them in a way that others could understand. For the record, G-force is universally understood as referring to gravity. You need to iron out some of this confusion before expecting others to take your idea seriously.
PS-Don't expect a reply from Sidelined, he's not about right now.

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Message 31 of 54 (452719)
01-31-2008 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by tesla
01-30-2008 6:00 PM


Re: The greatest force of all
tesla writes:
ah. thanks for the correction the force that holds atoms together is the force I'm referring. i guess that would be the "strong" force?
OK, glad we cleared that up. Now let's examine your theory. In Message 17 you write;
tesla writes:
my theory concerning the G-force strong nuclear force and gravity, is that the collective sharing of the g-force strong nuclear force in atoms resonate together. so that matter composed of more atoms, have more shared g-force strong nuclear force, which resonate as a greater gravity. which is why the attraction is not by size, but by density.
As you can see, I have corrected the quote to reflect your intent.
I am afraid that your theory is in error. The strong nuclear force does not "resonate as a greater gravity". It has nothing to do with gravity. Gravity is so weak at the very tiny scales at which the strong force operates, that it is completely negligible. Denser objects (objects with more mass) have more gravity simply due to their higher mass, there is no need for recourse to the strong force in order to explain this.
I have no idea what you are trying to prove here, but physics is not an area of study where a keen amateur can make important discoveries just by sitting and pondering about it. If you want to pursue your theory, I suggest that you start by enrolling on a college physics course.

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Message 34 of 54 (452729)
01-31-2008 7:53 AM
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01-31-2008 7:44 AM


Re: The greatest force of all
tesla writes:
so my theory of the strong force is that it IS extremely powerful continuous striking that resonates through matter and comes out in a weaker form known as gravity.
Uh-huh. So your evidence for this is...

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