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Message 74 of 161 (450641)
01-22-2008 11:34 PM

Reply to: Message 71 by pelican
01-22-2008 9:45 PM

What is spirituality?

I am banging my head against a brick wall with someone who is intent on disagreeing without any ideas or understanding of their own.

I have been following this thread. It is now at 74 messages, but I still haven't a clue as to what "spirituality" means, if it even means anything at all.

What if you educated folk are too educated to understand some of us? - Heinrik

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Message 77 of 161 (450685)
01-23-2008 8:20 AM

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01-23-2008 7:53 AM

Re: What is spirituality?

Sprituality is seen as voodoo, supernatural, religious doctrine and non-existent.

That sounds about right to me.

I see spirituality as a transformation of self. Nothing more and nothing less.

Education (self-education) is transformation of self.

I believe we have finished our physical evolution, i.e we will remain human beings.

I don't think we have gone extinct just yet

However,I believe there is another equally valid evolution occurring right now. I believe the spiritual evolution is the dawning of tranformation. This evolution is taking place within the consciousness and cannot be proved except by the results.

Yet another post fails to answer "what is spirituality?"

What if you educated folk are too educated to understand some of us? - Heinrik

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Message 82 of 161 (450693)
01-23-2008 8:50 AM

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01-23-2008 8:32 AM

Re: What is spirituality?

What does education transform you into?

Education changes one into a person who is more aware of and better understands the wonders of our world.

And how can education have anything to do with a spiritual transformation, that is not on the curriculum?

Since nobody has explained what "spiritual" is, I take that word to be meaningless. Thus I do not see any real question there - merely words in the syntactic form of a question.

Oh, and education can (and should) provide far more than what is on the curriculum.

I'm not speaking of changing what you know.

I don't buy into the philosophers' (and theologians') fairy tales, that knowedge is "what you know" (i.e. a bunch of facts). I fully grant that a bunch of facts is not particularly transforming. I see knowledge as structural - part of our makeup - and thus I see education as highly transforming.

What if you educated folk are too educated to understand some of us? - Heinrik

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