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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
TheNaturalist
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Message 88 of 144 (451035)
01-25-2008 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Buzsaw
12-31-2007 9:42 PM


Re: A Whole Lot
buzsaw-1. Falsify all the fulfilled Biblical prophecies. LOL!
2. Falsify the fact that God reveals himself to those of us who acknowledge him. According to the Bible he draws near to and reveals himself in manifold ways to those who draw to and acknowledge him.
3. Have your secularist researchers go to Nuweiba Beach at Aqaba and falsify the alleged chariot wheels encased in coral as well as all the corroborating evidence in the area relative to the Biblical Exodus account.
5. Empirically account for all the design evident in the DNA, the human cell and brain logically and mathmatically relative to the mathmatical probabilities.
6. Explain why your theory can circumvent the 1st law of thermodynamics relative to your contention that there was no before the BB.
7. Falsify the evidence of the supernatural relative to bo good and evil such as voodoo, the accult and such as is experienced from time to time in churches; things like exorcism, healings etc.
8. Explain the probabilities mathmatically as to how so many factors relative to life on earth just happen to be right in order for life as we observe it to exist; things like a the properties of the atmosphere etc, the location of sun and moon relative to earth, the properties of the planet's surface such as soil, water, gravity, the intensity of the sun's heat, etc, etc.
9. Verify that life began naturally void of ID, existed long enough to begin to multiply and the mathmatical probabilites of procreation of life to the extent that is observed today. I know we've been told, but nothing has come close, better than ID, yet to convince me.
1.What fulfilled biblical profecies? The only biblical profecies that have been fulfilled are vague coincidences which are only examples of many things which could have happened to "fulfill" the supposed profecy. For example, most creationists(biblical) say that the predictions of constant battle in Israel is evidence for creationism(again, biblical), but, I myself know that Israel will probably never stop fighting with the middle easterners, because theyre primitive, religious SAVAGES over there. duhhh
2.Makes no sense. Specify
3.C'mon, even biblical creationists have to admit that its likely a hoax. Of course, it could have happened as the bible described it, but how does that relate to supernaturalism, rather than just accurately recording historical events? Reason..
5.(though buzsaw meant "4.") NO WAY. buzsaw is clearly entirely misinformed. Most of DNA (in all creatures) is non-functional and useless. It is easy to notice mutations in DNA(mutations have been observed and their effects on the DNA were noticed, so scientists can recognize mutations), and they compose almost all of DNA
6.It is known that before the BB was probably a "big crunch" where gravity condensed all material in the universe to the size of a plank unit. This then caused a reversal of movement, the "big bang". It has been mathematically demonstrated that if the universe were to condense to a plank unit, it would have to reverse movement to a "big bang".
7.That made no sense whatsoever. What the hell?
8.The probability of such happening for one planet in interest is extremely slim, of course, but guess what? There are TRILLIONS of planets in the universe, likely. For it to happen on at least one of them is not so unlikely. Reason....
9.There is much information on that topic which is significant; research it. Im feeling to lazy to go through all I know about it. But, Im guessing youre smart and interested and hard-working enough to research it on your own anyways..

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