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Author Topic:   20 years of the Creation/ID science curriculum
bluescat48
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Message 8 of 305 (451371)
01-27-2008 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Modulous
01-27-2008 9:57 AM


Re: From the Wedge strategy
Modulous
They are running a bit behind schedule, but they were planning (by 2018)
To see intelligent design theory as the dominant perspective in science.
To see design theory application in specific fields, including molecular biology, biochemistry, paleontology, physics and cosmology in the natural sciences, psychology, ethics, politics, theology and philosophy in the humanities; to see its innuence in the fine arts.
To see design theory permeate our religious, cultural, moral and political life.
Or welcome to the year 1418

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bluescat48
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Message 133 of 305 (454443)
02-07-2008 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Cold Foreign Object
02-06-2008 10:46 PM


Truth has been ignored, that is why we need to reverse the scourge of Atheist ideology called Darwinism.
What truth?

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Message 196 of 305 (454828)
02-08-2008 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Beretta
02-08-2008 9:07 AM


Re: Old evolutionist's tales
Beretta
Id proposes that natural causes may not be the only explanation possible for life on this earth but it does not attempt to get into who or what the creative intelligence may be because the identity of the designer is not part of science -that would be part of a theological debate.The point is not to exclude the potentially correct answer by limiting the definition of science to material causes and passing it off as fact since it may shut out investigation into the truth of what actually did produce life.
Much like the identity of the creator being out of the domain of science, so would things like voodoo and charms be out of the realm of scientific investigation.
The point is that ID cannot be scientifically tested anymore than any other pseudoscience (ie: astrology, alchemy) can. To be treated as science one must be able to show that the postulate is feasible (ie relativity, evolution, plate tectonics etc.).

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bluescat48
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Message 215 of 305 (455273)
02-11-2008 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Cold Foreign Object
02-11-2008 6:09 PM


cold foreign object
Correction: Darwinism has been imposed on public class rooms. The same is rabidly supported by all Atheists. ID seeks to loosen the stranglehold and re-introduce Science back into the schools.
Trixie
Since Behe admits that ID isn't science as science is currently defined, do you want to change the definition of science to get it in or do you want to see the work done that will make ID fit under the current definition?
ID is not Science! It is creationism attempting to use scientific terminology to confuse the issue and get this pseudoscience into science classes.

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Message 231 of 305 (455432)
02-12-2008 12:36 PM
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02-12-2008 4:20 AM


Re: Old evolutionist's tales
beretta
So in this case, evolution is the type of pseudoscience you must be talking about -the evidence is against it.As for ID, the evidence matches the theory which is why it is infinately more satisfying a theory.
The postulate IS feasible -Helloooo!
Show me one piece of evidence that shows ID is correct.

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