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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Ah well. Whatever. I guess you'll just have to find some other fool to chase you around. No worries. There seems to be an endless supply.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Hill Billy if you read this Modulous is very valuable. If you think the way I do then he is equally valuable.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Most likely, due to cultural evolution, your descendants in the next few generations will mutate into evolutionists. Exactly! Sort of. Added by edit: Sorry. You deserve better. I'll get back to you. Edited by Hill Billy, : No reason given.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
1 Corinthians 14 Gifts of Prophecy and Tongues
1Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified. 6Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me. 12So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church. 13For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. 16If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 17You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified. 18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue. 20Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:"Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord. 22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. 23So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!" Orderly Worship 26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, two”or at the most three”should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God. 29Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33For God is not a God of disorder but of peace.As in all the congregations of the saints, 34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 36Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. 39Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way. I don't see anything there that would drastically change the fact that women are not allowed to speak in church and that it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. 1 Corinthians 14 Gifts of Prophecy and Tongues 1Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified. 6Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me. 12So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church. 13For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. 16If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 17You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified. 18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue. 20Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:"Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord. 22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. 23So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!" Orderly Worship 26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, two”or at the most three”should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God. 29Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33For God is not a God of disorder but of peace.As in all the congregations of the saints, 34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 36Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. 39Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way. Teen4Christ. First, let me say that I think you have a very bright future. Nice job bringin out the whole thing chapter and verse, considering as how it relates to the topic at hand and all. I hope some folks took the time to read it. As for this little side track Taz laid out you say:
I don't see anything there that would drastically change the fact that women are not allowed to speak in church and that it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. Now when a person can't see stuff it can help to take a step back. Or look closer. For example, when I read the above statement I see that we are exactly two words away from agreement. Two. If you will indulge me I will slightly alter your statement and make it (in my opinion) perfectly agreeable.
I don't see anything there that would drastically change the fact that women were not allowed to speak in church and that it was disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. There, now we're gettin somewhere. Look at this,
They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, More closely. as the Law says. Now,as far as I know,there ain't no law round these parts that says anything at all about womenfolk speakin in church. So to me, that passage says, specifically, that women can in fact speak in church provided it is legal to do so. So you be cafefull out there and don't you be lettin that big city education make you feel better than other folks. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Nator!
Glad you could drop by.
If you feel less because you can't do that, that's not my problem. Now where in the world would anybody get the idea that I feel less about anything? Seriously, have you actually read anything I've written here? I do give you props for commin over and standin up to the big ol mean hillbilly though.
How do you know he has learned something? Well,here Larni offers up kind of a repeatable experiment so to speak.
Do you have enough knowledge of conformation, breeding, nutrition, training, riding, competing etc. to be able to compare his knowledge and mine? I grew up with them and have many years of experience with crazy skittish beasts One repeated by me. Anyone that spends time with horses is likely to describe them as just that, skittish.
You do realize that the person jumping the horse in my avatar photo is me, right? Well, now I do. Feel better? I hope so, cause when you say:I didn't start this thread, you know. I gotta wonder. Nator, really, did you read the OP? Without that quote this thread would not exist. You are my muse. Get used to it. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Dr.Eh?
Well, dammit, I'm only human. The trick is to keep that in the front of your mind and not just pull it out when you need an excuse. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Larni asks me:
How do you think degrees are attained? By lottery? You might wanna brace yourself. See, I'm not sure how many folks are alive on this planet, but precious few are fortunate enough to be born into the privileged position that allows for higher education. Any education in fact. So. Unless you some how managed to pick who you were gonna be before you were you......... you won the lottery. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Heinrik
answer my bloody question I admit it took some time. But when I got it I laughed. So, yes, it is. Edited by Hill Billy, : Why not? "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Larni, this post begins with such promise:
I get it now: But, like a puff of smoke, that promise vanishes. you have a grudge on behalf of all the people who don't have as much as people who have more. Cause that statement would suggest I have some sort of emotional stake in this discussion. Mmmm, steak. Be rite back.... K..
All the people who were born in a country that does not have as much as the developed world now have a champion who can 'tell it like it is' and put a 'hurting' on all those heartless bastard who through no fault of their own have the opportunity to take advantage of the opportunities thier country can provide. Yep, I think her name is Oprah Winfrey.
From this imbalance you conclude Please... If you read my OP you will see that I arrive at my conclusion solely based on the evidence contained in this forum.
that these 'lotto winners' (and I don't dispute that these lucky few are lucky) look down our 'high faluting noses' what with our 'fancy book learning'. I call bullshit. That may be cause the smell is so strong round there.Can I surmise that you choose your name to identify with these poor unlucky people? Um, no. You could however, surmise that I chose the name cause I'm ..... you ready?.... A frickin hillbilly. I wonder why that is so difficult for some people to accept? Maybe cause....
We see in other people what we see in our self and I leanrt that from 'fancy book learning and the school of 'hard knocks'. Extremely well said. So well said in fact that there should be no need for me to comment on this:Your position is that of an embittered person, lamenting missed opportunities and blaming other people for said missed opportunities. Is any of this gettin through?
I hope this is not the actual case. Cause I suspect the actual case is, to anyone who can dispassionately view this thread, clear that I'm merely holdin up a mirror. It's kinda Funny how many drop by to display their superiority to..... Themselves. Really, it's kinda sad. Shit! Now "I " got an emotional stake too. And I'm hungry again. Edited by Hill Billy, : No reason given. Edited by Hill Billy, : No reason given. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Nator, are you absolutely certain of this?
This is a debate board, not a therapy group. Nator, I beg you, please.... Read my next post... Carefully.... Please. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
While I was sittin in the hoosgow,
remember? , the story of the big scary hillbilly that came to town talkin all mean and stuff? The women folk got all in a tizzy. No worries, the handsome sheriff rides in and saves the day. Anyone r ember? Anyway, I got to wonderin. " How these folks would Feel if I told them that I was here gathering material for my thesis..." "Or maybe "Pshycology for Dummies" " My guess is that right now many people are laughin their asses off. Some, I'm sure are pondering, May be that some are pissed off, even if just a little. I'd bet some felt, at least a momentary, fear. "Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
"Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Not that I'm going to name any of those people..... Hardly seems necessary. " When hunting for the obtuse subtlety makes excellent bait." Jimmy V.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
I'm not sure I understand this reference:
Hill Billy is a troll But I take exception to this!and not at all serious about this thread I mean..are you really unaware that Hill Billy is laughing at you for being suckered into his "discussion"? What if I'm attempting to lure the "aware" ? " When hunting for the obtuse subtlety makes excellent bait." Jimmy V.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
What if I'm attempting to lure the "aware" ? While weedin out the unaware? Ain;t it all about perceptions? " When hunting for the obtuse subtlety makes excellent bait." Jimmy V.
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Hill Billy Member (Idle past 5375 days) Posts: 163 From: The hills Joined: |
Great story.
Is this the only alternative You see?But there's chance it's just a lost soul,
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