The Tesla Challenge

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Gravity just seems to be the most powerful force, because it governs our everyday lives.

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All forces govern our everyday lives. As a matter of fact, the most obvious one is electronegativity, not gravity. You don't fall straight to the center of Earth because the electronegativity force is keeping you from falling right through the ground.

LucyTheApe writes

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Gravity just seems to be the most powerful force, because it governs our everyday lives.

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Gravity is actually the weakest of the forces in nature. It's in fact so weak that physicists for decades have been racking their brains trying to figure out why gravity is so weak compared to the other forces, especially when they are trying to figure out the relationship between gravity and the other forces.The reason gravity is the dominating force in the universe is because there's a lot of it. It's like a whole colony of Argentine ants fighting a group of scorpions. Eventually, the ants will overcome the scorpions.

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If sidelined wants to reduce the magnificence the effect gravity has on the universe, down to a couple of self-evident scientific statements, he should use dry scientific jargon with maybe a bit of Latin and/or ancient Greek thrown in. Poetry doesn't work.

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I assure you, in my experience at least only people who don't know anything about science write with scientific jargon to mask their ignorance. You could usually tell from the first couple sentences if the person actually knows what he's talking about or he is just trying to impress his peers. Now, don't mistake jargon for the real thing.

My mistake. I meant the electromagnetic force that holds the electrons and protons as well as the atoms within a molecule together.Gee, aren't you picky with words I've been taking O-chem, so the word "electronegativity" sort of ingrained itself into my brain and blocked out everything else. Thanks for the correction Edited by teen4christ, : No reason given.

Tesla, I'm curious about something. Where did you learn about this "great force"?

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i watch people of today in school, and notice how they just copy text for online degrees, and really learn nothing.

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I'm beginning to understand where your misunderstandings are coming from.You know, not everyone go for online degrees. I spend at least 4-6 hours a day with my face burried in my books and notes trying to work out problems. I'm not a very bright person so it always seems like I have to work extra hard to run as fast as the people around me. The best thing that happened in my life was that I realized very early on that I wasn't as bright as other people around me. Only through humility (a lot of it in fact) have I been able to make it this far.My only advice to you is this, and this comes straight from my personal experience. The first step toward learning any new information and absorbing it correctly is to start out with a really open mind. In other words, it's always better to assume you will learn something rather than be stubborn with your preconceptions, which are more often than not are really misconceptions.With that said, you can take my word for it that there is no such thing as the "great force". I was tempted to think you meant the strong and weak nuclear forces, but even that didn't make much sense.

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i am willing with proof. no one has proven the laws wrong. and all my observation's say there correct.

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Ok, let's start at the beginning. What laws are you referring to? What observations have you made about this and how have they supported your laws?

Ok, let's look at each statement.

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Energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but changed from form to form.

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Good enough.

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No ordered form can exist on top of chaos without direction. (remember direction.)

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I think you have a misunderstanding of what chaos is as a scientific term.Chaos does not mean random. Chaos, at first glance, behaves like randomness but when you plot it out you will see a definite structure. In other words, there literally is order in chaos. If you dispute this point, I will explain further to you about chaotic systems and chaos theory.

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Something cant come from nothing. (it can "appear" to, but impossible to "litteraly" not come from nothing.(because we are)

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This is also another point that has been shown false through recent experiments. Within space-time, virtual particles come about and disappear all the time. They appear to behave like real particles.

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This means: although we cant see the energy of God, nothing outside of energy is real. that is reality.

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I'm having trouble understanding how you made the leap from your previous point to this.

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Existence had to be established, and all the elements are too ordered to have existed without direction.

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Again, what do you mean by "ordered"? Can you define this in some kind of way that doesn't involve human intuition?

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So existence is a synonym for God, in that in the begining, there was intellegent energy that existed singularly, and created all that is based on faith that it was/is.

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I'm also having problem seeing how you made the leap from your previous points to this.

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Debate the law. its sound.

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I don't think it's even valid, let alone sound. I've disputed most of your premises. You need to show that your premises are true and your conclusion valid before you can state that your argument is sound.

Then I trust that other people have tried before. I guess we can move onto another topic.

Ok, I'm convinced. It really does sound like the wookie defense.