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ICANT
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Message 16 of 113 (452695)
01-31-2008 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by cavediver
01-30-2008 6:25 AM


Re-if it meant
Hi cavediver,
cavediver writes:
If God gave you the free choice, would you go to hell for these ten?
cavediver I could tell you, yes I would be glad to go in their place and never have to worry one minute about the outcome.
First thing is I am not qualifed to be a sin sacrifice. I am a sinner. The sacrifice had to be perfect. Thus God the Son.
Second I have been born again.
John 3:1 (KJV) There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Third When you are born again your spirit is sealed until the day of redemption.
Ephe 4:30 (KJV) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
The spirit is what is born again. It is made perfect just like the man when he was first formed from the dust of the ground.
When you are born into this world you can't get unborn.
When you are born into God's family you can't get unborn.
Fourth I have eternal (never ending) life. And I will never perish.
John 10:28 (KJV) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
So what difference would it make what I said I would do.
It can't happen.

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 20 of 113 (452994)
01-31-2008 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by dogrelata
01-31-2008 5:40 PM


Re: Re-if it meant
Hi dogrelata,
dogrelata writes:
As a matter of interest, the difference between the above statement and having no free will would be . ?
dog I had never really thought of it that way but you got something there once I exercised my free will to recieve the free pardon God offered to me and I was born again. I couldn't go to the lake of fire if I wanted too.
Praise the Lord.
Amen

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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