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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
First off.... Hola everybody.
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quote: Please try this (in your head, because it would take a really long time to do this). Take a regular 52-card deck. Shuffle the deck a couple times, then lay them out in a 8x6 rectangle. Place the extra four cards in the left two columns. Take a picture. Suffle the deck again. Lay the deck out again in the 8x6 rectangle again. Take a new picture. Repeat until you're satisfied that there are the exact same cards in every iteration. Notice that the cards are always the same in every sequence. There will always be one ace of spades, one five of diamonds, two black jacks, and four tens. No matter how many times you do this, the numbers will never change. The order in which the cards are in will change because of the shuffleing, but the numbers won't. This illistrates Natural Selection, which selects from existing genes. It will never create new ones. So, with this in mind, you wouldn't need the same 1% difference in dog genes as the 1% difference between humans and chimps. No matter how close chimps are to humans, they will never blend because natural selection cannot produce the needed genes to change a chimp to a human. So, you'd only need the 0.1% difference in dog genes that you mentioned to produce the amount of species, not the 1% between two differant animals.
quote: So, the differance in dog types can be created in the 4,000 years since the flood. Thanks for the opportunity for a first post! IesousChristos H Theos H Uios Sotos
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: First off, thank you for not insulting me along with providing a fault with my logic. I appreciate that. Second, when has a mutation ever been beneficial to an organism. Last I checked, environmentalists continue to close nuclear plants (such as Trojan in Washington) because the mutations are hurting fish in the area, not creating better, more apt to survive fish. Also, over 50 years of fruit fly breeding expiraments, even with added effort to increase mutation rates, they've never been able to change the fruit fly to something other than a fruit fly. It has always stayed as a fruit fly.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Would that be a real mutation, or a 'mutation'? It seems to me that an anti-biotic resistant strain would be more like the survival of the fittest. Such as there are different people, some can't hear, some can't see, etc. some bacteria have a resistants to some phage, and therefore they'll live the next attack of that phage. I wouldn't call that a mutation any more than I'd call colorblindness a mutation.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Yeah, I guess. Thanks for correcting me before I get this thread closed.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Well, if the Flood did happen, and it happened by the hydro plate theory (my personal favorite), then there would be quite a bit of evidence for it. The Mid-Oceanic Ridge, the Grand Canyon, the Ice Age (and frozen mammoths in Siberia), the most recent mass extinction of animals, the sedimentary layers, etc. So no, there isn't no evidence for a flood. There are a few theories on the flood, and there are evidence for all (or at least most) of them.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Yes, but the genes didn't change to form that resistance. Somewhere, the gene was there, just not apparent (such as a blond guy and a black-haired girl have a black-haired kid. The kid has the blond gene, just not apparent). That wouldn't be a mutation, just a gene that showed itself for the better. Just a little off-topic, your signature.
quote:Most humans will suffer two deaths, the separation from life, which is temporary, and the separation from God, which is permanent. The penalty of sin is the separation from God, or eternal death (for without God, there is no life). If Jesus died the First Death (separation from life), then humans who believed in Him wouldn't die. Jesus died the second death for three days. He was separated from God for three days, when He didn't deserve it. Therefore, because He took the second death for us, we don't have to.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: I'm sorry, but I think it's a common misconception of Jesus' death and sacrifice. But please, if you'd want to argue about that, I'd be happy to start a new thread. Iesous Christos H Theos H Uios Sotos Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Somebody tried to make me change my signature (which I did), so is it so bad that I try to fix somebody else's. If you read that, it was under a P.S., and I said that I didn't want that to get off-topic.
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Crooked to what standard Member (Idle past 5846 days) Posts: 109 From: Bozeman, Montana, USA Joined: |
quote: Have you even heard of the hydro plate theory? It states that the water could have been stored underground at high pressure and temperature. It also says that the land of the earth was generally flat before the Flood. Then the water broke loose and the land started to move, there would have been a time while the earth was totally submerged (with the amout of water that's in the earth's oceans). Then, when land colided with opposing forces (the same force that got it started, because the earth is a sphere and the force went all the way around), it would have buckled, raising the land above the water, forming today's oceans. Iesous Christos H Theos H Uios Soter Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.
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