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Author Topic:   To Good to be True? Intelligently Designed?
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Message 3 of 49 (453076)
02-01-2008 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
01-31-2008 2:27 PM


Scholar Jonnachi writes:
the structures of the stories are too complex/structured to have arisen through the chance occurances that lead to the events in the life of real human beings, and can be better accounted for by understanding that these stories were intelligently designed by their authors.
So, how does the Creo/ID/Fundie react to the use of their old 'so-complex-it-was-designed' argument being applied to the stories they believe to be real and not made up designed?
This is no problem for me. The issue is the source of inspiration for the authors of the stories.
In other words...were the stories made up from the authors imagination or was the story a vision or an inspiration?

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Phat
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Message 5 of 49 (453098)
02-01-2008 12:04 PM
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Literature need not be a matter of Faith
Jon writes:
So, my proposal is this: that, just like the works of William Shakespeare or Homer, the similar high-level form of the Biblical stories relates them to these other literary forms because they share the same complexity of structure (even if that structure is different). Furthermore, that just like these other forms, they must share the same level of non-literalness, i.e., are not entirely true.
Assuming that all early authors were writing out of their own imaginations, I could see lumping the Bible in that same category.
IMHO the books authors were inspired through prayer, searching, and communion with an unknown God.
I suppose that in the context of literary analysis, musings about the reality of such a God are irrelevant, or, as teen 4 Christ suggests, "unprovable" one way or another.
Kindly resume the literary critique.

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Phat
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Message 7 of 49 (453106)
02-01-2008 12:15 PM
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02-01-2008 12:08 PM


Re: Literature need not be a matter of Faith
Jon writes:
So, from where did God get these stories?
God didn't write the stories. The authors did. God merely infused their literary urges with supernatural pixie dust!
Seriously, though...I see your point. The authors work must be judged on human scales. I suppose we can *shudder* consider the Bible as merely7 a great work of human literature...for this discussion, anyway.
Edited by Phat, : fixed

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Phat
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Message 12 of 49 (454345)
02-06-2008 2:13 PM
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02-05-2008 1:59 PM


Re: Literature need not be a matter of Faith
I don't remember what we were talking about and was it even on topic relevant to this?

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