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Author Topic:   Refereed (peer reviewed) Journals: Do They Insure Quality or Enforce Orthodoxy?
nator
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Message 15 of 24 (452882)
01-31-2008 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
01-31-2008 12:53 AM


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I think Tipler is correct that the peer-review process via refereed journals is deeply flawed and serves as much to simply enforce orthodoxy as to insure quality.
If all peer review did was enforce orthodoxy, then we would not see much in the way of progress, new discoveries, novel theories, or change in science.
Since we do see progress, new discoveries, novel theories, and change on a nearly daily basis in science, the hypothesis that peer-review mainly or partly enforces orthodoxy is falsified.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2191 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 22 of 24 (453301)
02-01-2008 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by randman
01-31-2008 5:09 PM


Re: nice civil response
You know, Tipler is tenured, so Tulane can't fire him for spouting off his crazy shit. I can assure you that if he was a new PhD looking to get hired to a tenure track position and he was flogging the crap he is today, he would never be hired.
That's why Tipler should really STFU about how the peer-review system and science is so terribly flawed, since the tenure system is set up to keep institutions of higher education from being able to fire professors for having "out there" ideas.
The same happened with UFO abduction believer John Mack at Harvard.

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nator
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Message 24 of 24 (453425)
02-02-2008 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by randman
02-02-2008 12:18 AM


Re: nice civil response
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You so sure about that?
Pretty sure, yes.
Just like Harvard would never have hired John Mack if he had been spouting his crap about alien abductions when he was looking to get hired as a professor.
Tell me, should Holocaust deniers be treated the same way in the academic field of History as you think IDers should be treated in Biology?
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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