Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,427 Year: 3,684/9,624 Month: 555/974 Week: 168/276 Day: 8/34 Hour: 1/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Evolution & Other Sciences
anglagard
Member (Idle past 858 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 7 of 7 (453306)
02-01-2008 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by obvious Child
01-31-2008 5:31 PM


Water, Radioactivity, Diseases, and the Environment
obvious Child writes:
Can anyone name any particular examples of where sciences that support evolution are used in an practical way?
I already have the geology for finding natural gas and oil and its relation to ancient flora, but I need more examples.
Hope I don't state anything her too obvious, obvious.
Evolution is primarily and most directly supported by biology and that branch of geology concerning fossils, namely paleontology. Therefore any science which is uses evolution such as certain branches of medicine or environmental science, or to date fossils, such as the concept of radioactive decay would seem to be fair game to me.
OK, let's give it a go.
First, geology is not only used to find deposits of oil and natural gas, it is also used to evaluate the extent and recharge rates of confined aquifers. Now if it would be difficult to live without oil and gas, as we might have to under the principles of creationist geology, imagine what it would be like to live without fresh water. That is what would happen to all arid and semi-arid places on earth without groundwater resources.
The link between the current understanding of subsurface hydrology and evolution concerns the age of the water at a given point in a confined aquifer. The water in some confined aquifers is in the order of millions of years old, which is known due to the fact that gravity can only pull so much water from the exposed part of the formation for a given length through rocks of varying transmissivity. This means that technically any fossils in such a rock with water at a given age must be older than the water in the rock, which would provide a minimum age for the fossil.
Now if we were to abandon hydrology as a scientific branch of geology and replace it with YEC hydrology, the inability to understand how much water is available in a confined aquifer, and more importantly, how long it takes to replenish that water, may lead to disastrous and unforeseen consequences when the well runs dry.
I figured I would bring that one up as I don't think anyone else would.
Now as to nuclear power and nuclear bombs, it is obvious that they are made of radioactive materials. It is just as obvious that radioactive materials are used in radiometric dating. Therefore, the same scientific understanding of radioactivity present in chemistry and physics that is used to make nuclear power is the one used to date the strata around fossils and help make sense of geologic time along with evolution as per paleontology.
I guess to a YEC, radioactivity is good when it is used to kill people who may be Shinto, Muslim, or Athiest as in thermonuclear bombs, but is bad when it is used to learn something about the age of the earth or to determine the age of a fossil as in radiometric dating. Or maybe even to treat disease as in nuclear medicine.
The physics and chemistry pros around here may have more on this subject than I do.
As to biology, it appears to me that one must understand evolution to trace how fast that influenza virus is mutating or to see how a given species is adapting to various environmental pressures. Who was that guy who said nothing can be understood in biology except in light of evolution? Dobhansky or something? Well, I will defer further explanation to the biology experts.
Hope that helps.
Edited by anglagard, : Title and double phrase removal
Edited by anglagard, : use better word

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by obvious Child, posted 01-31-2008 5:31 PM obvious Child has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024