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Author Topic:   GWB, the Nazis, the Commies, and Us.
obvious Child
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Message 16 of 17 (453860)
02-04-2008 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Iname
02-04-2008 12:56 AM


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Bush isn't the problem (well he is, but not in that way), he's merely the opening act. While relatively few people support him anymore, a quick look through any right-wing conservative message board or blog will reveal that support for such things as the Patriot Act, as well as the secret prisons and warrantless wiretapping are still disturbingly widespread.
No question. But as you stated, very few people support him and if you been paying attention to the election, most of the GOP candidates, particularly the ones that have any chance are distancing themselves quite considerably from Bush and his policies. Thompson was one of the pro-Bush policies and he's dropped out. McCain is the current front runner and he's disobeyed, contradicted and undermined Dubya so much that the majority of Dubya's fan clubs hates the man. The whole "I'm going to attach no torture to every bill until Dubya signs it" campaign was one of note. Unlike Hitler, Dubya has failed to unify the nation under one message and instead fractured it where the majority don't believe anything he says. His own party is abandoning him. Just recently his budget was released and took serious flak from Republicans who have stated that it was obviously meant not to be seriously scrutinized and that it uses gimmicks to appear better then it really is. With that kind of atmosphere I'm frankly not afraid of the whole fascist take over scare.
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what Bush has done is greased up the process.
I don't know about this. In US history, every Imperial president was followed by an president and congress that undid their precedent of grabbing powers not given to them by the Constitution. Taft for example was nowhere near what Teddy was. And given the particularly hatred for what Dubya has done even among strict Consitutionalists, I don't see your senario happening. Bush is taking huge flak for grabbing powers not given to him. The next president who does this will likely see massive rage if they follow suit.

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Message 17 of 17 (453863)
02-04-2008 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Taz
02-04-2008 1:51 AM


Perhaps, but the indoctrinated draconian Soviet military could not bring themselves to do this. The American Military which prides itself on defending the people as its primary job could do what they could not?
That seems very implausible.
That experiment seems rather irrelevant in this situation as many detractors of the administration don't believe anything it says. Furthermore, many of them have access to outside information to make judgments on rather then relying on the face value of an instructor. Frankly, our rejection of authority, particularly Republican Presidents seems to throw an monkey wrench into application of that experiment.

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