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nator
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Message 20 of 109 (453252)
02-01-2008 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by skepticfaith
02-01-2008 3:36 PM


Re: Mcain is next president
I think it highly unlikely that we will have any republican as the next president.
Have you seen the money raising and primary turnout disparities between the two parties?
Democrats are motivated and republicans are demoralized and fractured.

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nator
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Message 39 of 109 (453528)
02-02-2008 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
02-01-2008 8:13 PM


Buz, do you know who these men are?
Do you know who these people are, and, perhaps more importantly, when and where this picture was taken?
When: December 4, 1997
Who: Taliban representatives
Where: Texas
They were there to visit George W. Bush and his oil executive cronies when he was Governor of Texas.
There's also that whole thing with Bush flying members of Bin Laden's family back to Saudi Arabia after 9/11, too.
Guess if you want real evidence of who has connections to radical Islamists, we need look no further than the current Commander in Chief, do we?

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nator
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Message 42 of 109 (453587)
02-03-2008 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
02-02-2008 9:32 PM


Re: Buz, do you know who these men are?
Wouldn't the candidate most like George Bush be the most risky candidate, since Bush's actions have increased the number of Islamic terrorists in the world, not decreased it, and has made us more dependent upon foreign oil, not less?
After all, it wasn't Democrats who invited the Taliban to the US and courted them for an oil pipeline deal, despite the fact we knew of their horrible opprssion of their people and their ties to terrorism.
It was the Republicans, Buz.
The neoconservative, right-wing, old-money, conservative Christian Republicans who got into bed with the Taliban. And, I might add, they got into bed with Saddam Hussein, years before.
So, why on earth would you think that a Democrat, rather than a NeoCon, right wing Republican, would be most likely to be a tool of the Taliban, when history provides you with ample evidence that it is actually the Neocon, right-wing Republican Christian that is by far the most risky candidate?
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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nator
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Message 44 of 109 (453645)
02-03-2008 2:12 PM
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02-03-2008 11:05 AM


Re: Buz, do you know who these men are?
quote:
Bush hasn't increased the # of terrorists. He's just flushed them out.
No, buz.
If you invade and destroy a Islamic country with a secular government for no good reason, and occupy that country and are sluggish to rebuild its infrastructure so the people cannot get back to work and normal life, and you detain thousands for no reason and give them no legal recourse, and you torture detainees, you are bound to piss a lot of them off.
What are pissed off Muslims vulnerable to?
Islamic extremist recruiting.
Don't believe me? What about government intelligence agencies:
Read the whole article here
WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 ” A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe.
An opening section of the report, “Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement,” cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology.
The report “says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse,” said one American intelligence official.
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nator
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Message 58 of 109 (454328)
02-06-2008 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Buzsaw
02-05-2008 8:48 PM


Re: Racism or sexism: the dilemma of Afro-American women
quote:
I agree. Sadly, too many do not see it as strange.
In this election everthing but the issues appears to be the drive as to who wins.
So, voting based upon sexism and racism is bad, but voting based upon religious bigotry is OK?
By the way, Buz, how many times did you vote for George W. Bush?
The reason I asked is becasue you said in another thread that if you had known what he would do to the country, you never would have voted for him.
Well, I had a very good notion of what he had done to the country after the first 4 years, as I assume you did, so I was just wondering if you voted for him the second time, too.

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nator
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Message 67 of 109 (454584)
02-07-2008 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by skepticfaith
02-06-2008 8:23 PM


Re: Racism or sexism: the dilemma of Afro-American women
quote:
Not that I like Obama (I believe in conservative spending, 1 & 2nd amendment issues)
Let's see, in the last 20 years or so, when the Republicans (Reagan and the two Bush's) have been in office, we've ended up with larger government, large debt with deficit spending, and a crappy economy.
When the Democrat was there, we had a smaller government, a budget surplus and a great economy.
Tell me again why today's Democrats are associated with irresponsible government fiscal policy and modern Republicans are seen as somehow fiscally conservative?

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nator
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Message 68 of 109 (454587)
02-07-2008 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by skepticfaith
02-07-2008 2:40 PM


Re: Racism or sexism: the dilemma of Afro-American women
quote:
Since this is an evolution forum - I believe there was a study conducted that showed EVEN white people tend to feel more comfortable around those of their own kind.. (I believe a series of slides of different people were shown) .
So this kind of 'racism' is actually a natural response. Black people just feel far more comfortable expressing this consciously.
Uh, why you you emphasixe that white people like to be with other whites?
That's racism.

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nator
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Message 78 of 109 (454664)
02-08-2008 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by skepticfaith
02-07-2008 6:40 PM


Re: Racism or sexism: the dilemma of Afro-American women
Can you show that there is a genetic basis to race?

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nator
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Message 94 of 109 (454994)
02-09-2008 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Taz
02-08-2008 7:43 PM


If Hillary gets the nomination, my guess is Wesley Clark for VP.
Maybe not, though. He may just get a cabinet position.

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nator
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Message 95 of 109 (454995)
02-09-2008 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Taz
02-09-2008 3:03 PM


Re: putting this to rest...
quote:
just like I can tell that there's no blue in a mixture of red and black after seeing it.
But there might be blue in it, even though you can't see it.
"Red" as a color can be in the "cool" (purple) family or the "warm" (orange) family.
So, is there such a thing as a "pure" race? If not, what does race really mean?

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nator
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Message 100 of 109 (455094)
02-10-2008 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Taz
02-10-2008 10:08 AM


Re: putting this to rest...
quote:
Is there such a thing as "pure" color?
No.
quote:
If not, what does color really mean?
Our names for colors are arbitrary.

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