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RAZD
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Message 99 of 138 (394778)
04-13-2007 7:24 AM


for jjsemsch re off-topic comments
for jjsemsch re off-topic comments on Message 38?
Another off topic example is Tyrannosaurus Rex soft tissue.
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The uniformitarian geological timescale tells us that dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, but it’s hard to believe soft tissue could last through the process of fossilization, much less last 65 million years! (and before you call me out on this I realize that abiogenesis, biological evolution, and geology are all separate disciplines, but they’re all inter-related and necessary for the entire evolutionary theory) Rather than changing the geological timescale it’s the process of fossilization that is changed. I don’t know about you, but I can’t seem to keep leftovers in the fridge for more than 2 weeks, and that’s in a favorable environment!Top
Please quote the creatortionista site you took this from eh? ("Top?")
The concept being tested is your understanding of how theories are invalidated. This is supposed to be an example of a theory being invalidated, yet all it consists of is an opinion based on incredulity and the argument from ignorance.
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Message 101 of 138 (394956)
04-14-2007 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Dr Adequate
04-13-2007 7:54 PM


In your new topic (EYEC) you forgot to use the argument that food rots in your fridge in a couple of weeks, thus demonstrating that the TRex here was only weeks old.

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Message 118 of 138 (455299)
02-11-2008 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by DogToDolphin
02-11-2008 7:25 PM


Welcome to the fray, DogToDolphin.
What about the almost universal depiction of dragon (dinosaur)-like creatures around the globe?
And the fact that there are substantial differences in the depictions from various cultures on traits, behaviors and abilities.
You can check Inca, Turkish, Chinese, Indonesian, Russian, European artifacts, and they will show you a dragon-like (dinosaur if you prefer, but that term didn't exist back then) on their potteries ...
Some of which are fakes, frauds, like Piltdown etc.
It's not the case of Dragons/Dinosaurs, right?
You might be interested in The First Fossil Hunters: Paleontology in Greek and Roman Times. (Hardcover) --
quote:
Since fossils have presumably existed for millions of years, why don't we see much paleontological thought from ancient writers? Classics scholar Adrienne Mayor suggests that we can, in fact, learn much about the Greek and Roman attitudes toward fossils if we turn to a surprising source of data and theory: their myths. In The First Fossil Hunters, she explores likely connections between the rich fossil beds around the Mediterranean and tales of griffins and giants originating in the classical world. Striking similarities exist between the Protoceratops skeletons of the Gobi Desert and the legends of the gold-hoarding griffin told by nomadic people of the region, and the fossilized remains of giant Miocene mammals could be taken for the heroes and monsters of earlier times. Mayor makes her case well, but, as with all interpretive science, the arguments are inconclusive. Still, her novel reading of ancient myth--and her critique of the modern scientific mythology that seeks to explain the lack of classical paleontological thinking--is compelling and thought-provoking.
Then you can ask yourself which is more likely - that dragons existed, or that early people came upon the fossil skeletons of dinosaurs and made up myths to explain them.
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Message 123 of 138 (455319)
02-11-2008 9:26 PM
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02-11-2008 8:25 PM


Griffins seem to be a mosaic of a kind of eagle and a lion,
Or a protoceratops -- with a beak and four clawed feet.
From the previous quote on the book mentioned:
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... Striking similarities exist between the Protoceratops skeletons of the Gobi Desert and the legends of the gold-hoarding griffin told by nomadic people of the region, ...
The book is a fun read with a lot of information to tweak your imagination. She also explains cyclops with the skull and skeleton of a mastodon -- there is one large opening in the center of the skull (for the trunk) and the real eye sockets are hardly noticeable on the sides. The rest of the skeleton has enough homologies with humans that it can be arranged as a giant biped.
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