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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
teen4christ
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Message 102 of 144 (455495)
02-12-2008 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by asif
02-01-2008 8:08 PM


asif writes
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you are telling me its fact and thats it.
Evolution is both fact and theory.
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Isnt it just possible that 100 years from now the ToE is proven to be incorrect by some other theory.
Yes, it is very possible that the theory could be discarded in the future. This is why a theory could never be proven. I'll tell you this much. Within the scientific community, there are few other theories that have such overwhelming evidence to support it. Again, while it is possible for someone to bring about some evidence that would disprove the theory, many are beginning to believe that this particular theory is here to stay.
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My point being so far I have no read any literature that is convinced me that ToE is a False proof 100% correct theory.
There are very smart people who spend their entire lives studying and researching on this issue. These are called scientists, professors, etc. They didn't become biologists because they asked a couple questions and someone somewhere gave them the answers.
If you are so interested in this subject, perhaps you should consider taking a few classes at your local college? While it will certainly not give you all the answers you want, it's a start. You just can't expect someone over the internet to summarize 150 years worth of scientific inquiry in a few short paragraphs for you.
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You see your answers are not convincing me
Those answers shouldn't be convincing. No short answers should ever be convincing when we are talking about a subject as broad as evolutionary biology.
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How do we even know that 17,000 species of Trilobite existed.
Because we've found millions and millions of fossil remains of these critters, and we aren't seeing any crawling around.
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Once again can you provide me the link of the study that showed that so i can read it that all of them went extinct and how ?
Well, I would guess that most people here speak from experience. It certainly is my case anyhow. I'm lousy at internet research. Unlike a lot of people, I took the long route by going to college and do actual researches in libraries.
With that said, I'll leave this question to someone else who is more fluent in the art of internet searching.
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I am here to learn not to create a fight , I really appreciate you answering these questions but its just that the answers are no based on false proof facts and are unconvincing right now.
Just keep this in mind. There are millions of very smart people out there who think this particular theory is here to stay. The theory of evolution has contributed to many many discoveries and scientific endeavors that have saved millions and millions of lives. Evolution directly predicted the existence of DNA and directly lead to the entire field of genetics. That flu vaccine we took late last year was produced based on evolutionary concepts. All of these things are taking place without your approval. So, something must be right about this theory that has made it so successful not just on paper but also in real life.
Again, it is unfair for you to want some answers in a few short paragraphs that summarize something as broad as evolutionary biology. Do you remember taking biology in middle school? How about geology? I do. I also remember taking algebra in middle school. The thing that I remember most clearly about these things is I didn't pass those classes after spending 15 minutes or so asking a couple questions and reading a couple answers.
With that said, my advice is this. Instead of asking people to prove to you right now in a few short paragraphs that evolution is real, perhaps you should consider asking for specific things about evolution. For example, you could start by asking people to explain how organisms are slightly different from their parents because of mutations and how these mutations can accumulate into something that could give them slight advantages over other organisms. In order to understand evolution, you need to start small. You're asking big questions right now, and I don't think anyone can answer your big questions, especially when we're not even sure you could understand them.

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