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Logic
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Message 1 of 6 (455557)
02-12-2008 8:59 PM


In the bible God is described as being "loving of all his children", but then again is it true?
According to selected verified extracts from bible itself god has killed about [2,270,365] that is excluding the population of the world during Noah's flood, and other important events that didn't include exact numbers. Do people really want to follow a God who seems to kill his children so easily?
This information is obtained from
http://www.gospeakit.com/science/bible-body-count.html
My question is:
How can you follow a book of such atrositys and say it is the love of God

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Message 2 of 6 (455592)
02-12-2008 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Logic
02-12-2008 8:59 PM


Old Testament vs. New Testament
I just don't feel good about promoting this topic as presented. Thus at least a bit of preliminary discussion.
If I am correct, every cited example is from the Old Testament. Your "God of death" is Old Testament.
My question is:
How can you follow a book of such atrocities and say it is the love of God?
Your question would seem to be most relevant for Judaism, however...
My counter questions are:
Is the Old Testament really relevant to the essence of Christianity? Isn't the "God of love" more of a New Testament thing?
Adminnemooseus
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : A "Testiment" slipped by.

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Logic
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Message 3 of 6 (455594)
02-12-2008 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
02-12-2008 11:21 PM


Re: Old Testament vs. New Testament
So your saying the god of "Old Testament" is different to god "New Testament" from my understanding they are both of the same God.
These a proven numbers calculated and relevant to that of Christianity, or am I wrong in my understanding that Christians don't believe the "Old Testament" yet believe the "New Testament"

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Message 4 of 6 (455607)
02-13-2008 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Logic
02-12-2008 11:37 PM


Re: Old Testament vs. New Testament
So your saying the god of "Old Testament" is different to god "New Testament"?
The behavior sure seems to be different.
...or am I wrong in my understanding - Christians don't believe the "Old Testament" yet believe the "New Testament"?.
I've rephrased that "quote" some, to say what I think you meant rather that what so actually said.
Personally, I think that Christians would be best off jettisoning the Old Testament as being of dubious quality and also being irrelevant, and focusing on the Christian (as in, Christ's) message of the New Testament. Of course, my views are not representative of Christianity as a whole.
As I see it, what might fly as being a good topic would be a "compare/contrast the testaments" type topic, including what you covered in message 1. How about trying a whole new opening message that covers the broader "Old vs. New Testament God". Please post this as a new message in this topic. That new message can be used to become message 1 of the released version of the topic.
Don't take my "fighting" you wrong. I do it because I care about this topic and want to see it get off to a good start.
Adminnemooseus

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Logic
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Posts: 31
From: Australia
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Message 5 of 6 (455782)
02-13-2008 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Adminnemooseus
02-13-2008 12:46 AM


Ok
I'll rephrase the whole topic =) Starting from:
In the New testament God is described as being "loving of all his children", but then again in the old testament he is also displayed as a God of death, this evidence is supplied here ->
According to selected verified extracts from bible itself god has killed about [2,270,365] that is excluding the population of the world during Noah's flood, and other important events that didn't include exact numbers.
This information is obtained from:
http://www.gospeakit.com/science/bible-body-count.html
My question is:
How can you follow a book which contains a God who is displayed as loving in the New Testament yet of war and death in the Old Testament?

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Message 6 of 6 (455843)
02-14-2008 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Logic
02-13-2008 6:35 PM


Message 5 spun-off to become new topic
See the promoted version of "God of Death or Love" here.
This PNT version is now closed.
Adminnemooseus

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