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tesla
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Message 8 of 61 (456386)
02-17-2008 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
01-31-2008 10:14 AM


Genesis 4:15
And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Genesis 4:24
If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
i see no mention of hell. just vengence
If an unrepentant killer goes to hell forever and an unrepentant killer of a killer goes to hell forever, how then can the punishment that God promises be fulfilled?
i agree with raphael. but im not sure what the seperation will mean for those seperated from the body of existence. (i guess to no longer exist)
Edited by tesla, : elaboration.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 26 of 61 (458577)
02-29-2008 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Taz
02-26-2008 10:50 PM


perspective.
you have to understand what God is before you can claim why he does what he does. and even then, the greatest wisest man is not as wise as the foolishness of God.
lets put this in perspective: you have a body. God has a body.
if you have cancer in your body, you cut it out., because it defiles your body, and could spread and kill you.
if God has a rejection in its body, that poisons his body, so also does he have the right to cut it out, that good will be preserved, that he will continue to exist.
now here is the kicker, you administer medicine to preserve poisoned parts of your body. so also did God give medicine to mankind,as they are a part of his body. but those who do not get healed by the medicine, will have to be cut off to preserve the greater whole.
now, is it not wise to cut off an arm to preserve your body?
so also is it not murder for God to cut off that which denies him and is poison to his whole. for God is of faith, and without faith, you cannot exist in the body, because it is poison to faith to have doubt.
why do you come to bible study taz? are you looking for God? or com here to show the folly of God to feel better? but i tell you: if God stands with you., no man can stand against you. because if you loose all in the earth, you gain your soul in heaven. so what then is death to a man or woman whom God is with but a homecoming?
you cannot understand, and many things i cannot understand. but God knows. he made it all. and the bible as i have learned and grown in understanding contains so much good wisdom, so much truth, that if the interpretations are understood and followed, this whole world could be rejoined with God and the earth not die.
but who will give up themselves for the will of God? the world and those of it wish to be their own God. and deny God what he made, and deny whom they exist in. and for it, if they never come to terms and have faith, but stay stubborn against the body, then like cancer will the day come. and the day will come, when God will once again make all things new. as he said he would when he walked the earth in the man body of Jesus.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 60 of 61 (459003)
03-03-2008 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Greatest I am
03-01-2008 11:15 AM


Re: perspective.
what he created was good, but he gave us a choice when he gave us a soul. our consciousness exists in the spirit realm, but thats the part of the whole we deny.
what manner of god are you to judge the true God?
when you take cattle to slaughter, do you have compassion when you slay them? is it not wise to slay what you must to survive? is it murder, to kill a rapist and murderer who is in your house and threatening your existence?
it is wrong to murder that which is good to you and for you, but wise to slay that which seeks to destroy you.
by ignorance, you have found forgiveness from God, because he is perfect, and came his consciousness in the body of a man to die and defeat the doubt of men, that we might be saved and not destroyed. but of our choice, do we deny the body that cannot have doubt. and in our denial, we are full of doubt. so he gave us the truth, and in science the proof, that we may know him, and seek him, and repent, that we might yet live. but as we choose, that is our choice.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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