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DrJones*
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Message 31 of 40 (456550)
02-18-2008 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by DogToDolphin
02-18-2008 6:35 PM


I saw the twin towers in flame, but it didn't seem that they would collapse...so when they did (like they were being demolished), it seemed really weird.
Not that weird. The impact from the planes removed the heat resistant material from the structural members and the prolonged high temp fire weakened them to the point of collapse, simple physics.
I later learn that a tower, called tower 7 was demolished, supposedly due to a fire inside.
WTC Building 7 was later demolished because of structural damage.
Pentagon hijack, but there was no apparent traces of a commercial liner, also the Pennsylvania crash site only showed fragments of the supposed airliner .
How much do you expect to remain after an airliner crashes? Fast moving fragile object + ground = big mess.
Edited by DrJones*, : spelin
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soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DogToDolphin
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Message 32 of 40 (456555)
02-18-2008 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by DrJones*
02-18-2008 7:30 PM


Obviously you haven't watch Loose Change
I think you don't even need to watch that, it's pretty obvious.

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DrJones*
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Message 33 of 40 (456557)
02-18-2008 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by DogToDolphin
02-18-2008 7:46 PM


Can you sumerize what you think are the most valid points in the video? We don't argue with bare links here.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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subbie
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Message 34 of 40 (456559)
02-18-2008 7:56 PM
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02-18-2008 7:46 PM


I've watched Loose Change.
It's hip deep in rhetoric, and devoid of facts.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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DogToDolphin
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Message 35 of 40 (456560)
02-18-2008 7:57 PM
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02-18-2008 7:48 PM


Well the main points are what I already posted earlier.

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DogToDolphin
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Message 36 of 40 (456562)
02-18-2008 8:09 PM
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02-18-2008 7:56 PM


I am sorry but I think the facts are what we all saw.
I am convinced something is wrong in that 9/11 thing. Am I right or wrong? I can't say for sure.
But talking about he twin towers "demolition", at best the towers should have swinged, but no, all the floors collapsed, nothing left on ground zero.
But the fact that Bush administration lied more than once should bring caution on any official versions.
Best example is Irak war, hmmm, George Bush Jr pushing his dad's agenda.
Weapons of Mass destructions were never found. Some countries from United Nations imposed a veto.
Also, if the official version was true why not be more open about it, why do the officials avoid the issue? why not show the evidences?
I think it's off topic so should we open a new topic on what evidences people think support the official version or not?

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Message 37 of 40 (456563)
02-18-2008 8:23 PM
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02-18-2008 8:09 PM


It's definitely off topic here.
If you want to discuss it further, try this thread. I'd strongly suggest reading the thread before posting to see if the things you want to discuss have already been dealt with.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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DogToDolphin
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Message 38 of 40 (456564)
02-18-2008 8:27 PM
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02-18-2008 8:23 PM


Thanks! I'll check that out.

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Vacate
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Message 39 of 40 (456767)
02-19-2008 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by DrJones*
02-18-2008 7:30 PM


WTC Building 7 was later demolished because of structural damage.
Small point but WTC 7 collapsed completely at 5:20 P.M. on the same day. I am pretty sure it was WTC 6 that had to be demolished at a later date.

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Message 40 of 40 (456771)
02-20-2008 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Archer Opteryx
09-11-2006 7:24 AM


I was living in this little camper trailer...
I received a phone call from a friend...
Friend - "Have you had TV on?"
Me - "Why? Did something weird happen?"
About that same time I was having an ugly falling-out with the public radio station where I had been one of the people doing the late Friday night program. The station program director had banned me from doing any more programs (I have never gotten a reason out of him).
The program had been the last time-slot left where you could be really eclectic. They decided that as of about the end of the year they were doing to make the time-slot a "jam band" show. Which I thought sucked.
Anyhow, lacking anyone else, they permitted me two final shows, the first of which was 9/21/01, the second being a month later. Not on the air, but privately they were the "We are going down" shows. This was to 1)Mark the end of my then DJ career, 2)Mark the end of the show, and 3)Some sort of post 9/11 commentary:
Interstate 103 (We Are Going Down 1) (9/21-22/01)
Interstate 103 (We Are Going Down 2) (10/19-20/01)
What kind of program to do, considering the times? Well, my programs tended to be rather dark anyway, so I decided not to fight that and to embrace the darkness. After my standard intro tune, my first show opening tune was the Neville Brothers doing Dylan's "With God On Our Side".
The first show was my "songs" show, the second was more abstract stuff. I commissioned a friend to produce a sound collage piece for my final closing tune. The stations sign-off music was (and still is) a little Ry Cooder instrumental "I Think It's Going to Work Out Fine". To be manipulated and overdubbed onto this was Laurie Anderson's "ifqxq95ldse]-->From the Air". This song contains such lines as "This is your captain speaking. We are about to attempt a crash landing". Well, the production turned out wonderful but I only had it on cassette tape. Didn't have a player at the station, so it never got used. But I did conclude the second show with the regular version of "From the Air". I got to the line "We are all going down, together", cut it off, played the sign-off tape, and went home.
Or something like that.
Moose

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