Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?

Moral sense.Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?The Church still prizes the Moral Sense as man's noblest asset today, although the Church knows God had a distinctly poor opinion of it and did what he could in his clumsy way to keep his happy Children of the Garden from acquiring it.How many of us would give up our moral sense and return to animal ignorance or instincts that live without it.I would not because it tells me why I follow God.Would you prefer to be a sheep and follow God without knowing why?Regards
DL

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Knowledge of good and evil is another name for conscience. It is a tool used by God in the attempt to save men from his wrath. And a tool used to ensure that lost men can be justly exposed to the fury of Gods wrath. A double edged sword thus. It is not prized as the noblest asset for the simple reason of it's being double edgedIf God had intended that his children not eat of the fruit then the simplest thing to do would have been to omit planting that tree there in the first place.God, in providing Adam with this fruit of choice, also ensured that what a-moral Adam ingested would provide the means whereby all (of his now sinful) offspring would offered Adams choice.Choose for God: yes of no.

What church "knows" this? God did almost nothing to keep His happy Children of the Garden from acquiring it. All He had to do was not provide the option of eating from the tree by not providing the tree. You think God didn't know what was going to happen when He put the tree and man together? Besides, it was free will that allowed man to "sin" and eat from the tree. Adam and Eve just didn't know it was wrong to do so until after they ate. Don't you already do that?Example: Do you pray?
Does praying change what God has intended to do?God says you should pray, or ask for His assistance. Do you know why or do you just do it?

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. 6/10 ....True, but I've marked you down for not carrying on the the obvious conclusion (no option = no choice = no way to exercise any free will
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. 10/10 ...right on the money - they were consequential creatures only. Not moral creaturesAverage score = 8.5.Well done AQEdited by iano, : No reason given.

So God wanted man to have conscience. Why then does scripture show God punishing man for reaching for it?If this is not our best asset then what is?Regards
DL

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"Don't you already do that?
Example: Do you pray?
Does praying change what God has intended to do?
God says you should pray, or ask for His assistance. Do you know why or do you just do it?"I know good and evil. I follow God’s philosophy as I understand it.I seldom pray.Yes prayer can change things because the future is not set. God, like us, evolves.People do not pray without a reason. Praying is asking for something.Regards
DLEdited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

No. God wanted Adam to have a choice. I don't think even God could provide a choice which couldn't be chosen - irrespective of what God would want Adam to have done God promised death for disobedience. God keeps his promises. Our best/worst asset. It's a tool of God applied to each and every man that will result in each and every man being saved or condemned.It's a double edged sword.

And you said that was conciounce which you said God wanted us to have.Are you on a mery go round or is logic just beyond you?Regards
DL

And I said what was conscience?I didn't say God wanted us to have conscience. At least I don't remember saying such a thing Neither.Edited by iano, : No reason given.

When I read this my first thought was " huh? " Are you speaking of moral understanding, as in what you have learned is moral/ immoral, or are you speaking of a sense of morality, as in what you feel may be moral/ immoral?Seems to me the bible spells out what is moral/ immoral. This would seem to eliminate any need for a " sense " of morality that was derived from the knowledge of good and evil.I don't argue that people may have some sort of internal morality measuring device but I don't believe it's so cut and dried that I would claim to know where it comes from. You don't seem to have much respect for the God you claim to follow.

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The years tell what the days never knew.

There was no Bible in the time of Adam and Eve.The God that most see in the Bible does not deserve man's respect.He kills us too often. If we saw a father resorting to violence to correct his children all the time we would say that he is not too bright and too lazy to use his head.
We see God doing the same and we adore him for it. rather stupid of so many.Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?Regards
DL

You say: I say thats likely true, however if you read the book it says God WAS there. God was there to speak directly to Adam and Eve. No need for a book. How do you know what "most" see in the bible or anywhere else? So, if it's so stupid, why do you claim follow him? You just ignore my question? Thats fine. I disagree. A moral "sense" does NOT come from the knowledge of good and evil. That would be a moral "understanding".So, again, why would you follow a God that you feel does NOT deserve to be followed? I seriously do not understand. It seems as if you are merely pretending to follow God and that seems kinda odd to me.Do you have some other agenda?

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The years tell what the days never knew.

You may be reading a bit too quickly.Many follow the God of the Bible while still believing that He sent a genocidal flood. I do not follow this God. My God comes out of the same book but does not need to resort to killing people.A good law maker will not break His own laws.I believe God to be perfect and to do perfect works.Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is heI do not read the Bible literally bit this quote is a logical extention of what a God would be and do.God may have been in the garden but if He were to teach Adam and Eve good and evil then the tree of knowledge would not be needed. So to say that God taught them this information would be wrong.If the already knew it then whey cast them out for eating what they already knew. Illogical.Regards
DL