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Author Topic:   Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?
Greatest I am
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Message 1 of 14 (456633)
02-19-2008 10:08 AM


Moral sense.

Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?

The Church still prizes the Moral Sense as man's noblest asset today, although the Church knows God had a distinctly poor opinion of it and did what he could in his clumsy way to keep his happy Children of the Garden from acquiring it.

How many of us would give up our moral sense and return to animal ignorance or instincts that live without it.

I would not because it tells me why I follow God.

Would you prefer to be a sheep and follow God without knowing why?

Regards
DL


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Message 6 of 14 (456839)
02-20-2008 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by iano
02-20-2008 9:46 AM


So God wanted man to have conscience. Why then does scripture show God punishing man for reaching for it?

If this is not our best asset then what is?

Regards
DL


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Message 7 of 14 (456840)
02-20-2008 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by LinearAq
02-20-2008 10:38 AM


You wrote
"Don't you already do that?
Example: Do you pray?
Does praying change what God has intended to do?
God says you should pray, or ask for His assistance. Do you know why or do you just do it?"

I know good and evil. I follow God’s philosophy as I understand it.

I seldom pray.

Yes prayer can change things because the future is not set. God, like us, evolves.

People do not pray without a reason. Praying is asking for something.

Regards
DL

Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.


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Greatest I am
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Message 9 of 14 (456856)
02-20-2008 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by iano
02-20-2008 11:40 AM


Re: Conscience: the double edged sword
And you said that was conciounce which you said God wanted us to have.

Are you on a mery go round or is logic just beyond you?

Regards
DL


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Message 12 of 14 (457406)
02-23-2008 8:46 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Hill Billy
02-22-2008 7:36 PM


Re: Moral compass?
There was no Bible in the time of Adam and Eve.

The God that most see in the Bible does not deserve man's respect.

He kills us too often. If we saw a father resorting to violence to correct his children all the time we would say that he is not too bright and too lazy to use his head.
We see God doing the same and we adore him for it. rather stupid of so many.

Moral sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Would you give it up?

Regards
DL


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Message 14 of 14 (457439)
02-23-2008 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Hill Billy
02-23-2008 1:28 PM


Re: Greatest ? I think you're not.
You may be reading a bit too quickly.

Many follow the God of the Bible while still believing that He sent a genocidal flood. I do not follow this God. My God comes out of the same book but does not need to resort to killing people.

A good law maker will not break His own laws.

I believe God to be perfect and to do perfect works.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he

I do not read the Bible literally bit this quote is a logical extention of what a God would be and do.

God may have been in the garden but if He were to teach Adam and Eve good and evil then the tree of knowledge would not be needed. So to say that God taught them this information would be wrong.

If the already knew it then whey cast them out for eating what they already knew. Illogical.

Regards
DL


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