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TheTruth
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Message 301 of 308 (457218)
02-21-2008 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by TheTruth
02-21-2008 6:39 PM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
Now the age
[quote]Genesis 5:3-32
3When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he [b]became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.

4Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters.

5So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died.

6Seth lived one hundred and five years, and became the father of Enosh.

7Then Seth lived eight hundred and seven years after he became the father of Enosh, and he had other sons and daughters.

8So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died.

9Enosh lived ninety years, and became the father of Kenan.

10Then Enosh lived eight hundred and fifteen years after he became the father of Kenan, and he had other sons and daughters.

11So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years, and he died.

12Kenan lived seventy years, and became the father of Mahalalel.

13Then Kenan lived eight hundred and forty years after he became the father of Mahalalel, and he had other sons and daughters.

14So all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years, and he died.

15Mahalalel lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Jared.

16Then Mahalalel lived eight hundred and thirty years after he became the father of Jared, and he had other sons and daughters.

17So all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred and ninety-five years, and he died.

18Jared lived one hundred and sixty-two years, and became the father of Enoch.

19Then Jared lived eight hundred years after he became the father of Enoch, and he had other sons and daughters.

20So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years, and he died.

21Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah.

22Then Enoch (D)walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters.

23So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.

24(E)Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God (F)took him.

25Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and became the father of Lamech.

26Then Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years after he became the father of Lamech, and he had other sons and daughters.

27So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years, and he died.

28Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and became the father of a son.

29Now he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will give us rest from our work and from the toil of our hands arising from (G)the ground which the LORD has cursed."

30Then Lamech lived five hundred and ninety-five years after he became the father of Noah, and he had other sons and daughters.

31So all the days of Lamech were seven hundred and seventy-seven years, and he died.

32Noah was (H)five hundred years old, and Noah became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
[/quote]
And Noah lived to be 950.


"People call me strange does that make me a stranger
My best friend was born in a manger"
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Message 302 of 308 (457236)
02-21-2008 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by ICANT
02-21-2008 6:31 PM


My last post for this thread
ICANT writes:

And I will be praying for you.

Thanks for your thoughts. I'll be hoping the best for you too.

Thanks, everyone, for all the input on this topic. It allowed me to explore my own beliefs/ideas and see how they hold up to scrutiny.

I will still continue to search for anything better.

And I will continue to do so with all the honesty and openess I'm capable of.

If this leads me to God, I will certainly accept such an answer.

If this leads me further down the road of atheism, I have no problems with that either.

I am not looking for "the answer".

I am simply looking for "whatever I'm capable of finding".

It is possible that 'the answer' is beyond my personal abilities. This doesn't discourage me, as it's not my goal. My goal is to make the best of what I have, and honour whatever source is responsible for what I have (if any) by not wasting any talents.

Good luck to all, and thanks for all the sharing of ideas in this topic.


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Brian
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Message 303 of 308 (457288)
02-22-2008 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 300 by TheTruth
02-21-2008 6:39 PM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
You seem to have misunderstood my post.

I was asking for evidence and not to have some Bible verses quoted at me.

So what evidence do you have for all these changes in 'conditions'?

Don't quote the Bible, give me facts and figures relating to oxygen and radiation levels.

For example, what were raditaion levels at 4500 years ago and what are they now?

What were oxygen levels 4500 years ago and what are they now?

How do these various levels affect longevity and how do we know?

Thanks.


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TheTruth
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Message 304 of 308 (457300)
02-22-2008 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 303 by Brian
02-22-2008 9:21 AM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
The tropical fossils found in Antartica. The water canopy would have made temperatures tropical all around the earth. Dinosours or great lizards simply over grown lizards. Lizards have the unique property of growing all their life. With out the radiation of the direct sun that occurs today their life span would have been greatly increased humans to would have extended life. The "giants" skeletons found; when you live in high oxygen low radiation your body is able to grow bigger, stronger, and heal faster(they use a high oxygen chamber for athletic injuries to speed up the healing process). This website might help explain better.
http://www.finalfrontier.org.uk/index.php?main=2&sub=1&page=27
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0331oxygen.asp
http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/flood/flood.htm


"People call me strange does that make me a stranger
My best friend was born in a manger"
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Brian
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Message 305 of 308 (457304)
02-22-2008 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 304 by TheTruth
02-22-2008 11:30 AM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
You still don't seem to be gettng the hang of it mate.

The tropical fossils found in Antartica.

What does this have to do with people living to nearly one thousand years of age?

The water canopy would have made temperatures tropical all around the earth.

Would it?

Even if it did, are you saying that people in tropical areas live longer than those people who do not live in tropical areas? Are there people in tropical areas today who live to 900 years of age?

Dinosours or great lizards simply over grown lizards.

What does this have to do with human longevity?

With out the radiation of the direct sun that occurs today their life span would have been greatly increased humans to would have extended life.

What is your evidence for this? How do you know this?

This is an empty claim bud. All you are doing is saying things without any support.

What experiments have been done to show that people lived longer without the radiation failing to come through this imaginary water canopy?

The "giants" skeletons found; when you live in high oxygen low radiation your body is able to grow bigger, stronger, and heal faster(they use a high oxygen chamber for athletic injuries to speed up the healing process).

I'd like some evidence that people grew bigger, healed faster, and were stronger 4500 years ago than they are today.

This website might help explain better.

Percy discourages bare links.

Pick the best evidence from the sites you link to and present a case please.

Brian.

Edited by Brian, : spelling


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TheTruth
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Message 306 of 308 (457307)
02-22-2008 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by Brian
02-22-2008 11:53 AM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
You took it apart the other things all prove the existense of a water canopy and with one the oxygen levels would be increased and radiation levels would be decreased. Medicaly we know that under these conditions life can be extended, growth can be amplified. Look it up its fact.


"People call me strange does that make me a stranger
My best friend was born in a manger"
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Brian
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Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 307 of 308 (457387)
02-23-2008 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 306 by TheTruth
02-22-2008 12:31 PM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
Look it up its fact.

I'm afraid that in a debate this is actually your job mate, you need to do your own homework and provide facts and figures to try snd persuade me that what you are saying is true, and so far you havent supported a single thing.

Let's try again.

We will take it one question at a time, so......

What were the oxygen levels before the Flood and what were they after the Flood?

Once you provide the FACTS and FIGURES for this question we can move on.


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Message 308 of 308 (457389)
02-23-2008 5:11 AM


Past 300 messages, out of contact with the topic theme, closing time
Maybe we need to have topic scavenger hunts - To see who can find the last contact with the topic theme.

It certainly isn't in the most recent messages.

Or something like that.

Closing time.

Adminnemooseus


  
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