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Author Topic:   Why try to disprove people's beliefs?
Dr Adequate
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Message 14 of 72 (457502)
02-23-2008 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by iano
02-23-2008 7:51 PM


If a materialist can simply suppose that what he perceives as reality is reality then there is no reason I can think of why I can't do the same.
And if it is pointed out to you that "materialists" do not "simply suppose that what they perceive as reality is reality", and that in iny case, "he does it too" is not a justification for sloppy thinking, what's your second-best excuse?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 16 of 72 (457510)
02-23-2008 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by iano
02-23-2008 8:15 PM


That is exactly what they do. And once they do, they set about pointing to things they suppose to be real in ordre to demonstrate the reality (they suppose to be real) is real.
Perhaps you could quote me an actual example of whatever it is you're talking about?
I can assure you that this practice cannot be common amongst those who disagree with you, or I should have observed it at least once.
I, certainly, do not behave or reason in any way like the "materialists" that you describe. But perhaps you do not consider me a "materialist"?
I don't need one. The objection has been driven to stalemate.
That is a non sequitur unless you believe that "driving an objection to stalemate", whatever that means, is an excuse for sloppy thinking on your part.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 33 of 72 (457696)
02-24-2008 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by iano
02-24-2008 8:43 PM


I should have be more precise. I was referring to the materialists core assumption that his perception of people/planet as real - is accurate.
The reality of people, and indeed the planet is not an assumption. There is evidence for it. It is a testable proposition, which I have in no way assumed a priori. (Who could?) I am once more interested to know whether you consider me a "materialist".
I am asked "how do you know your reality is real?" by people who do precisely the same as I do in arriving at an answer.
Unless your answer involves referring people to evidence, then you are not, in fact, giving the same answer.
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Message 70 of 72 (461113)
03-22-2008 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by ChristianJuggalo
03-19-2008 12:22 PM


Re: Current times people.
ChristianJuggalo writes:
That's an asshole comment to me ... you moron ... moron ... assholes like you ... sarcastic prick.
ChristianJuggalo writes:
Why would he get hostile if he is so secure with his beliefs?

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