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Author Topic:   Can a materialistic formula explain a non-materialistic process?
Blue Jay
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Message 21 of 38 (458215)
02-27-2008 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by bertvan
02-27-2008 2:00 PM


Statistical Predictability
bertvan writes:
Motivation, volition, free will and creative intelligence are non deterministic, can’t be weighed or measured, and are only statistically predictable.
If you set a tennis ball launcher in a completely isolated room and launched tennis balls in a given direction, how many of them would land exactly where Newton's laws of motion would predict? Likely, a few would: but not all of them. Newton's laws of motion are the tools used to predict nature, but they still only get it exactly right a minority of the time. Newton's laws are, therefore, non-deterministic and the balls' motion is only statistically predictable by them.
Statistical predicatibility is the basis of materialistic science. The "law of gravity" isn't a demand that the universe must live up to, it's an attempt to describe how the universe will behave. A zillion and one factors contribute to where the ball will land. Even if you precisely measured the mass, weight, throwing force, air resistance, etc., and determined them to be the same for each ball you throw, you would still only be able to statistically predict the exact landing spot.
So, in saying that volition is statistically-predictable, you are saying that it can be described with at least some certainty by materialistic processes.

Signed,
Nobody Important (just Bluejay)

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