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Author Topic:   That whole jesus thing is a load of tosh
Newborn
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Message 21 of 30 (45907)
07-13-2003 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by nator
07-04-2003 8:17 AM


Look at this then
If Mary was lying to Joseph then she could have a telepathic machine because the Holy Spirit appears in dreams to Joseph and advice him .
Or is she an alien and call her comrades on an Ovni (The bethleem Star event).

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Newborn
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Message 24 of 30 (45957)
07-14-2003 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by doctrbill
07-13-2003 9:07 PM


Most of the prophecies in the Old Testament made you think that it talks about nation restauration (and that was what Israel thought on that time).
They thought that the Messias would be a warrior of some sort who will be sent to free them from the other nations ocupation.
But the prophecies are talking about the overall salvation plan of God .It talks about Jesus coming to the world,executing Gods SPIRITUAL salvation plan and about the salvation of the gentiles.
Paul says Israel didnt recognize Jesus and only after the salvation of the gentiles Israel will be safe(spiritualy)
Then the scriptures are talking about spiritual salvation in a figurative way
Remember Jesus appeared to Paul.
Remember also the apostles did miracles and expelled demons in the name of Jesus.

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Newborn
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Message 26 of 30 (46476)
07-18-2003 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by doctrbill
07-14-2003 10:22 AM


in my last reply i include the "virgin birth" prophecy.

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Newborn
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Message 28 of 30 (46617)
07-20-2003 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by doctrbill
07-18-2003 9:06 PM


That is exactly what i said.
After all is you that needs a dictionary(without offense)
One can interpret Isaiah 7 in terms of national issues but the virgin thing is like a hidden futuristic message(did some of the Israelites enemies born from a virgin? I doubt.You have to do research in these cultures and show it to me).

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Newborn
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Message 29 of 30 (46618)
07-20-2003 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by doctrbill
07-18-2003 9:06 PM


That is exactly what i said.
After all is you that needs a dictionary(without offense)
One can interpret Isaiah 7 in terms of national issues but the virgin thing is like a hidden futuristic message concerning Jesus and not anyone of Israelites enemies.Did some of the Israelites enemies born from a virgin? I doubt.You have to do research in these cultures and show it to me.

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