More than flesh and blood?

What you are describing is the effects/results of certain neural patterns, which are very physical.Ask yourself this question. Is your operating system in your computer physical? You do realize that it is a combination of binaries written on your harddrive, which is a very physical thing.Simply put, the operating system is what the those binaries do. The human mind is what the brain does. To attribute it to some kind of metaphysical nonmaterialistic thing is nonsense.Added by edit.If there really is such a thing as a soul and that it is independent of the physical brain, then explain why people's personality are different after they've suffered physical brain damage.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Um, behavioural and behavioral are both correct.

GDR, you're quibbling the analogy. But hang on. If the metaphysical soul is real, how come physical injury would cause the mind to be different?The human mind, including all the emotions, are an abberation of the neural patterns of the brain, nothing more. Again, we can prove this by looking at brain damaged individuals. Their personalities have been altered through physical trauma. If the soul really exists, physical damage shouldn't affect the personality.

Original thoughts and emotions are reflections of what the brain does. Operating system and the various programs are reflections of what the computer does. By pointing out that the computer shows no emotion, you are quibbling my analogy.This is little better than when buzsaw quibbled my walking analogy in regard to evolution. Evolution is the change in allele frequency over time. Given enough minute (very small) mutations over long periods of time, very tiny differences would eventually add up to huge differences. My analogy was that if you take a step you are only a few inches away from your original location. But if you take enough steps over long periods of time, you could end up a thousand miles from where you were at. Buzsaw quibbled my analogy by giving a smartass comment like "but after he walked for a thousand miles he remains a man..."Do you think quibbling someone's analogy somehow makes you have the high ground? All of what you describe, joy, pride, ego, and whatnot, are reflections of the neural patterns in people's brains. How does this prove that there is a non-physical part of the human awareness? I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you agreeing with me that what we perceive as human emotions and whatnot are reflections of what the brain does or are you saying there's some kind of human soul involved?

Sorry, but this is utter nonsense from someone that obviously know not how radio waves work.A while ago, I attended a religious sermon by some pastor. He was preaching about faith and how it is a necessary part of life. He used the example of radio and tv as examples of faith. After the sermon, I confronted him and asked him how radio and tv demonstrated faith, and he said (and I swear he said this) that since noone in the world knows how these things work but we use them anyway, we must have faith that they work. I swear, this guy had no idea how radio and tv work so he just automatically assumed that everyone else is an idiot like him.You remind me of him.

Muahahahahahahahaha!Like I said before. Not everyone is as ignorant as people like you. You remind me of Kent Hovind, which once claimed that sonar was part of the electromagnetic spectrum.I've always wondered if christians who know better than this feel embarrassed for their brethrens. Nope. That's what I thought at first, too. That's why I talked to him afterward. That's called "trust", not faith. The light has consistently turned on, so you trust that the next time you flip the switch it will turn on.Can you say the same thing about miracles? I have an aunt that needed spinal surgery. For years, she refused to go through with the surgery because she was convinced god was going to heal her. It wasn't until she lost feelings of both her legs did she agree to visit the surgeon. The surgeon said if she didn't have the surgery then she could become paralized from waist down anytime. She still had second thoughts because she still thought god was going to heal her. It took her entire family to convince her to go through with it.That's called faith. I can't believe you people are comparing that to switching on and off the light. I didn't misunderstand him. That's why I talked to him after the sermon. He literally was comparing his faith in radio waves to his faith in god. Why? Because he literally had no idea what an electromagnetic wave was and he thought the rest of us was as ignorant as he was.

I've been watching you for quite some time now. I'm especially interested in the source of your tendency to make smart-ass/wise-guy comments. What say you about the source of your wise-guy attitude?Edited by True Believer, : Added siggy

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Thou shalt accept Prometheus as thy savior for HE is the true light of Humanity and the World.

I don't believe I've actually insulted you. It's not an insult to point out your ignorance.Radio waves are parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. This includes visible light, microwave, x-ray, radio waves, etc. Unlike sound waves, which are longitudinal waves, radio waves are transverse waves. (Hint, look up these words if you don't understand them... I'm not going to waste my time explaining every detail.)Like all EM waves, a radio wave is actually made of electric and magnetic fields that reinforce each other. By changing the amplitudes of these coupled waves, we can send information through space. It's like sending smoke signals.Why use radio waves to convey information rather than other forms of EM waves? Because radio waves have the lowest frequencies and therefore easiest to use back in the good old days. Communication devices like cell phones nowadays technically use microwaves for the same purpose.In short, you don't need faith in order to understand how these things work. From dictionary reference: trust-noun
1. reliance on the integrity, strength, ability, surety, etc., of a person or thing; confidence.
2. confident expectation of something; hope.
3. confidence in the certainty of future payment for property or goods received; credit: to sell merchandise on trust.
4. a person on whom or thing on which one relies: God is my trust.
5. the condition of one to whom something has been entrusted.
6. the obligation or responsibility imposed on a person in whom confidence or authority is placed: a position of trust.
7. charge, custody, or care: to leave valuables in someone's trust.
8. something committed or entrusted to one's care for use or safekeeping, as an office, duty, or the like; responsibility; charge.
9. Law.
a. a fiduciary relationship in which one person (the trustee) holds the title to property (the trust estate or trust property) for the benefit of another (the beneficiary).
b. the property or funds so held.
10. Commerce.
a. an illegal combination of industrial or commercial companies in which the stock of the constituent companies is controlled by a central board of trustees, thus making it possible to manage the companies so as to minimize production costs, control prices, eliminate competition, etc.
b. any large industrial or commercial corporation or combination having a monopolistic or semimonopolistic control over the production of some commodity or service.(Emphasis mine) faith -noun
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.I interpret all those definitions to mean that TRUST is earned while FAITH is not earned and does not require evidence. How on earth could she have trusted god when god never healed her before in her life? She even admitted that she had never experienced a miracle in her entire life. She continued to hope for god to heal her out of faith (unsupported belief) rather than trust.

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Thou shalt accept Prometheus as thy savior for HE is the true light of Humanity and the World.

Shouldn't you people be honored, since you guys think him some kind of demi-god? In case you haven't noticed, there is no such thing as the one true definition of a word in a language such as English. All the dictionary does is offer a group of descriptions and let the reader make up his own damn mind. In other words, you're suppose to read all the definitions provided and not just one or two.But forget all of that. Are you trying to tell me that you don't think the word "trust" is commonly used by people to mean earned respect? Are you trying to tell me that you don't think the word "faith" is commonly used by people to mean unsupported belief?Even in the christian sense, the whole basis of christian doctrine is faith based, meaning christians don't have to have seen or heard god or his influence to believe in him. That's what faith is. Unless you're disputing this fact, you're playing your role of the smart-ass wise-guy again.

You're mixing up "wise" with "knowledgeable" and "ignorance" with "idiotic". Being wise or not is in the eye of the beholder. For example, a lot of people out there think that fortune cookies are very wise while some of us think they are just a bunch of nonsensical but bang-in-the-head obvious truths. It's like saying "you are a mammal... your kind give live young..." I know what you mean. I'm having the same trouble with you right now. They're almost the exact same concept, just on a different scale. Smoke signals work by manipulating certain aspects of the rising smoke to tell others from a distance. We can manipulate certain aspects of the EM waves to communicate at a distance.You have this notion that just because something cannot be seen is nonphysical. This is the thinking of a child. That's how the game peackaboo-I-see-you works. The child covers her eyes. Since she cannot see you, she automatically assumes that you cannot see her. You're suppose to have grown out of that phase.The physical world is composed of both the things that you can see and things that you cannot see. Just because the radio waves cannot be seen by the eye doesn't mean it is not physical. I think you're stuck in a time warp or something. *Blink*You did not just say that did you?