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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 1 of 72 (457477)
02-23-2008 6:03 PM


This has bugged me for a long time now and I want to know other people's thoughts on it.
Why do some atheists try to disprove God?
Why do some Christians try to prove God?
{This message was message 3 of the "Proposed New Topic" of the same title. - Adminnemooseus}

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 45 of 72 (460814)
03-19-2008 9:39 AM


Current times people.
I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about right now. I'm tired of certain atheists such as Richard Dawkins talking shit about the Bible and trying to disprove it. Don't get me wrong, I know there are Christians that try to force there beliefs on people (which is wrong) But, sometimes when I argue with an atheist online, they start making fun of the Bible and using sarcasm. Why? If you're so secure with your beliefs, then you have no reason to get pissed or start trashing to the other person.
I also hate the fact that atheists are trying to force evolution down childrens throats. They want them to believe evolution and not believe in God. If a kid wants to believe in God, then he has the right doesn't he? The same goes for Christians, some are trying to get creation taught in schools, I don't think that's right either. All they need to do, is cast out evolution and creation in schools and not worry about the shit anymore.
Also, I have seen people get laughed at or made fun of in my school for questioning evolution. Why laugh? Are that stuck up?
Also, I have never said that I have been persecuted or attacked you moron. Also, I don't care to impose my Christian beliefs on anyone. Also, I don't care if a store says season greetings, happy holidays. I could give a fuck less. Quit assuming shit.
Oh yeah, you have it so bad being an atheist don't you? HA! Yeah right. You aren't the one that is constantly being made fun of (current times not past)in the media, schools, television. So don't start bitching and crying.
One more thing. Don't judge us as a whole because of some. I don't judge atheists as a whole. Hell, I don't judge anyone I leave that to God (who I believe is real, I'm trying to force anything on you cry baby) I have friends that are atheist. So don't be such a prick.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 48 of 72 (460820)
03-19-2008 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Taz
03-19-2008 10:06 AM


Re: Current times people.
Well, I can't help what goes on in politics. Sorry little buddy. Are you saying that I don't like atheists?
You said "I just find it funny that people like racists and homophobes always say "well, I have friends who are black" and "well, I have friends who are gay" as if that absolves them of their racism and homophobia."
Are you saying that I hate atheists? There you go again judging me. I don't hate atheists. You atheists (some) call us christians close-minded. I do have friends that are atheists and I respect them. None of us care who believes in what. I don't have hatred towards anyone. Why do think I don't like atheists? Just because I'm raising questions?
Also, I don't care if I'm laughed at for my beliefs. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone disagrees with me. I respect the fact that people think for themselves. I just hate the fact that Christians sometimes can't stand up and express their beliefs (express not force) without being pushed aside. I see more people make fun of the Christians (not that it bothers me) these days than I do anyone else. Just look at shows like family guy, simpsons, southpark, (basically any cable show) and a lot of comedians these days. I don't see them saying shit about atheists. Also, again I'm not talking about what happened centuries ago.

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 49 of 72 (460825)
03-19-2008 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Straggler
03-19-2008 9:53 AM


Re: Current times people.
Also, don't say "that wasn't a very christian response" No one ever said it had to be. What do you want? Do want me to candy coat everything? I'm not going to candy coat anything I say. If I want to cuss, I can cuss. If I want to talk shit, I can talk shit. It doesn't matter if I say a few cuss words because I can ask for forgiveness for it later.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 52 of 72 (460831)
03-19-2008 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Straggler
03-19-2008 11:30 AM


Re: Current times people.
What do you mean wind up? Yes I'm for real, I ask for forgiveness (that's what us Christians do moron) See how some atheists act like assholes. The smart ass used a laughing smilie face to make fun of my comment. Are you laughing at the fact that I ask for forgiveness? That's pretty childish to make fun of someone because of their beliefs. You need to grow up.
I have the right to belive in Christ and ask for forgivness right? Also, you have the right to laugh at me and think you're better than me. But, doing what you just did is ignorant. Make fun of me all you want, it will only make you look stupid.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 54 of 72 (460835)
03-19-2008 12:09 PM


I don't care.
Also, I don't give a shit if I get kicked off of this site. It will just prove once again that people don't want Christians standing up for themselves and say what they want. What I have seen is that Christians are being put down and casted out for raising questions.
Did anyone see the trailer for "Expelled: No intelligence allowed"? (I'm definently going to see that) Well if you did, you saw that Richard Dawkins said that he gets hostile towards a rival doctrine. So what I believe he is saying is, he doesn't like it when people question him or his beliefs. Why would he get hostile if he is so secure with his beliefs?
I hate the fact that a lot (or should I say some so I don't offend you guys) of atheists talk about us being bad people and talking about stuff that has happened centuries ago and judging us for it. I hate it when atheists say that Christianity and religion is the cause of war. Well, Hitler wasn't a religious person and he had a pretty big amount of people killed. Who did he have killed? Oh yeah, Jews. So don't be blaming us for every little bad thing that happens.
Yes, there are some Christian fanatics out there that put down and cast out atheists and people who don't believe what they do. But, you make it sound like they're the only ones doing it. You make it sound like atheists are so clean cut that they never do anything wrong and that they never cast out anyone because of their beliefs.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

  
ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 56 of 72 (460840)
03-19-2008 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Straggler
03-19-2008 12:09 PM


Re: Current times people.
Yes, I can do whatever I want. Anyone can, Christian or not. But, I choose not to do things little buddy.
You call me a prick? You said: "Then ask for forgiveness and you are magically resolved of all responsibility because you are a Christian?" That's an asshole comment to me. I never said anything about forgivness being magical you moron. And what kind of smartass comment is that? I do have responsibilties moron.
No I know Christ didn't teach us to do whatever we want. I know what I'm supposed to do and what I'm not supposed to do.
I hate it when you atheists say "you think you can do what you want because you're a Christian" The answer is no. I can, but, I choose not to due to the fact that The Lord says not to. I have had the urge to knock assholes like you out for making fun of my beliefs for no reason, but, do I do it? No, I just say to myself, he's not worth it. Hell, I've even been challenged to fights before and I didn't accept them due to the fact that it's a sin. The Bible says "Love thy neighbor" and that's why I choose not to fight (even though I have been in fights before)
So don't act like a sarcastic prick. You can be, I don't care, but don't call me one if you're going to be one.
Edited by ChristianJuggalo, : No reason given.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 57 of 72 (460845)
03-19-2008 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Chiroptera
03-19-2008 12:18 PM


Re: Current times people.
So what you're saying is that atheists are right and Christians are wrong? Just curious. Also, you're putting words in my mouth and that's okay with me. That's just how some atheists are (and some Christians, don't get your panties in a bunch) I never said Richard Dawkins bothers me. I just meant I don't like the fact that he has to be sarcastic when he talks about Christianity (not that it bothers me) I respect the fact that he is standing up for his beliefs, he just doesn't have to be a sarcastic prick about it, and neither do Christians when they discuss their beliefs.
The reason I don't want evolution (or creation) taught in school is because it causes too much controversy. I'm not saying evolution is false. Hell, some Christians believe God used evolution is his process of creation. I can't say he didn't. The only facts I see supporting evolution is micro-evolution. I'm not saying the others aren't valid, I'm just saying that's all I've seen.
I wasn't saying that getting laughed at is a bad thing or that it bothers me. Hell, I get laughed at all the time for my taste in music, but do I care? No.
How are my claims full of shit? By the way, what claims? But, wait, no athesits claims are ever full of shit are they? Atheists are never wrong are they?
I never said an atheist pissed in my beer. And I don't have a list of all the atheists that talk shit to me. Where's your list of Christians that do all these things that your claiming they do? You said there is a much smaller number of atheists that bother people than the number of Christians? Go get those numbers for me and show me. Just like an atheist would say, "I need physical proof to believe it" So show me the percentage little buddy.
Edited by ChristianJuggalo, : No reason given.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 60 of 72 (460922)
03-20-2008 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Chiroptera
03-19-2008 12:54 PM


Re: Current times people.
You said I contradicted myself. How? I can say I don't like something and then say it doesn't bother me. I don't like tuna, but it doesn't bother me. I don't like country music, but it doesn't bother me.
Hey man, I won't report you. Because what you say doesn't bother me.
But, what I want to know is, why did I get suspended and not you. I'm not saying you should get suspended or that I want you suspended, I'm just saying that you were being an asshole towards me and it's only fair.
By the way, I hope I get banned. If I can't say what I want and stand up for what I believe in, then there is no point in me being on this site. I guess it just goes to show, atheists don't want Chritians speaking up for themselves.
Remember these famous words by Richard Dawkins "I get hostile when it comes to rival doctrines" I guess he doesn't like it when people contradict him or disagree with him. That's a bigot for you. But, if this guy is so secure with his beliefs, then why does he get hostile when someone disagrees with him???
Have a nice life people. Remember, don't question atheists, because in their minb, they're never wrong. Atheists know all that needs to be known.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

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ChristianJuggalo 
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Message 61 of 72 (460924)
03-20-2008 1:13 PM


What's up?
Hey admin and moderators. I'm not the only one who got off of topic. People get off of topic all of the time and attack other people. Why don't they get suspended?

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved"- John 3:17
If God didn't create the universe, then how did it just get here?

  
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