I hate being right

In principle I agree that the US government has hardly been a model of trustworthiness ...but if you are in Europe and see some of the governments here in action...they are hardly in much of a position to criticise the honesty (or intelligence) of anybody either....it is like the entire G7 group plus Russia agreed to a competition to see who could produce the crappiest government in the shortest amount of time...Germany is certainly a frontrunner ....it will probably end up in an 8 way tie.

Sorry mark..I would have to bet on Germany for beaurocracy...I think they invented it...they certainly mastered inefficiency...but as an American living here..I can criticise both my government and theirs and get away with it

Hi RrhainI was actually responding to this

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Yeah, our government talks a good talk about not having chemical weapons, but why on earth would anybody believe us?

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About the believability of our government. Since it is not really reasonable to believe most governments, trying to find out the truth (considering the media is not REALLY independent) would be a formidible task as to why the Iraqi units had gas masks. And considering the entire "war" was presented by the media (I saw most coverage on CNN) like an episode of star wars with its own theme music and "embedded" journalists...it is unlikely any of us will ever get to know why the war happened, what actually happened during the war, and who is profiting from the raping..ahem..meant rebuilding of Iraq that is currently underway.My point about Europe had to do with the relative trustworthiness of the US government. Most of the governments that were so vocally against the war, particularly Germany, are now stumbling over themselves to kiss up to the US to ensure continuing and future business contracts...hardly seems they will be seeking the truth or showing much integrity themeselves in future developments since they are trying to protect their financial interests.