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Author Topic:   What is "the fabric" of space-time?
randman 
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Message 234 of 327 (462168)
04-01-2008 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 233 by cavediver
03-30-2008 5:10 PM


Re: the gravity of general relativity
In this universe, if something exists in the universe then it has a location.
So you are defining physical as something that has a location?
What if something has no definite location but merely the capacity to be or become in a specific location?
Edit to add: it appears this should have been directed to someone else as I mistakenly hit the wrong reply button. Nevertheless, besides john, it would be interesting to see how you answer these questions. John seems to be claiming time and space are mere human descriptions and not physical things. Is that your view, and if so.....?
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Message 238 of 327 (462262)
04-02-2008 1:19 AM
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03-30-2008 5:10 PM


Re: the gravity of general relativity
Along the path taken by a photon leaving a star's surface in Andromeda and entering your cornea, there is literally zero space-time distance. However, we perceive that distance to be 2.2 million light years as we are not travelling with the photon.
OK, interesting question. If there is no space-time distance, then why should we say it took x light-years to get here?
In other words, when we say the universe is of a certain date, is that really valid? When the space was created that from that perspective, an old date was created, then the universe appears to be of a certain age. But in reality the time was created along with the space, right?
Just thinking outloud and maybe should bring it up on another topic, but if space is being created, then certainly time is as well.

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Message 243 of 327 (462754)
04-08-2008 4:59 PM
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04-05-2008 9:23 PM


Re: the gravity of general relativity
I agree with you or partly. Time and space are more descriptions of distance between physical things from our perspective. However, they are in one sense physical in that they are a reference to physical relationships and so have a location from one perspective. I wouldn't call either absolute and not even sure time itself can accurately be given a specific quanta or point....there is no point in time.....it is always a varied "space" of time that depends on perspective.....in other words, it's not point-like. Moreover, I do believe the fabric of space-time is essentially non-physical and informational.
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