Always a laugh

"Yeah but without prior belief in the Bible,there wouldn't be any creation science...and since belief in the Bible is completely unscientific,then the very fondation of creation "science" is flawed."
--I guess we still don't understand the full model, but atleast were getting somewhere. Creation science is simply 'science' that is given the name creation science by the perspective of the higher classified 'creationism' in the hierarchy. Creation science and faith form creationism. Creation science for instance, is science, and looked upon as 'creation science' for its interperetation for a young earth, which is fully evidence/science based. When looked upon by Creationism, creationism uses creation science to then apply it to the biblical doctrine, which is why it is intertwined with faith. Thus Creation science is not based on the validity of the bible or faith in it to substantiate it as scientific, it simply is.------------------

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 02-13-2002]

"I see the model, certainly - but it's false. There is no such thing as creation 'science'. There is absolutely nothing scientific about it. It is merely a label put on creationism in an attempt to make it sound more than what it is - a religious belief. Now, if you say it's a religious belief, well and good; to attempt to call it a science is simply dishonest."
--So, your argument is, because you don't like my model for whatever reason, (I see it as no doubt, it being too right thus you must attempt to validify your assertion by saying it is false) you think that you can just pass it by and go right back down to ground zero.
--Tell me then, what is wrong with the model? For you to argue with Creation science, you must argue with that, do you have any more ammo?------------------

The thing is that creation science nor evolution deal with the origins, Creationists already have their answer by faith, and Evolution doesn't deal with origins, it is a completely different topic, though it is included in the entirty of these forums. Creation science does not deal with origins.------------------

"I am arguing (in this thread, at least) about the model you are proposing that differentiates creationism (a religious belief) from creation science (a scientific discipline/area of study). I am not arguing (in this thread) against the beliefs of creationism. My sole point is that creation 'science' does not exist - all of it is merely an attempt to make creationism seem more 'respectable' to the outside world, by making it sound like a type of science. It's not. It's a religious belief. Creation 'science' does not in any way follow the scientific method; it is not a science."
--If it so much does not quallify as worthy of the scientific method, would you care to give a reason besides restating your problem (which isn't the reason)? That is, give explination to your assertion, something to support it.------------------