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Author Topic:   EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed - Science Under Attack
Taz
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Message 111 of 438 (463127)
04-12-2008 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Percy
04-12-2008 8:20 AM


Re: Clips from the movie
Percy, I'm asking you now. Do you think this is a satire? I still can't tell.

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Taz
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Message 114 of 438 (463207)
04-13-2008 4:18 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Percy
04-12-2008 12:37 PM


Re: Clips from the movie
Percy writes:
Obviously not satire, don't know why you're even considering the possibility.
Because there's still a part of me that believes noone is that stupid... at least not any adult anyway. I haven't seen this film yet, but from what I saw in the previews it seems like they're using the same old PRATTs all over again.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 119 of 438 (463529)
04-17-2008 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by 1071
04-17-2008 7:28 PM


Re: your opinion is nutty and off-topic
By your line of reasoning, we should all sit on our fat asses all day and get fatter, considering the fact that the nazis were health freaks. The nazis were also environmental freaks. By your line of reasoning, we all should just completely trash the environment and pollute this planet as much as we can.
Just because an evil person or organization decided to use a symbol or idea to further their evil agendas doesn't mean that the symbol or idea in itself is necessarily evil or that the opposite is necessarily good.
Did you know that Hitler was pro-military? By your line of reasoning, we should dismantle our military completely.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 144 of 438 (463738)
04-19-2008 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by Admin
04-19-2008 12:31 PM


From your link...
quote:
What’s going to make Richard Dawkins upset about his admission is that he is aggressively anti-religious, a “hater” of the Judeo-Christian God, and he has many times publicly denounced the theory of Intelligent Design as complete and utter hogwash. He frankly states, moments before his alien-musings, that the likelihood of God existing is about the same as “fairies, elves” and other fantastical creatures.
Consider the following scenario. We are in a court room where the defense lawyer is questioning the forensic expert.
Lawyer: Dr. Langly, are you absolutely 100% certain that the DNA sample you collected belongs to my client?
Dr. Langly: No, I am not absolutely 100% certain of that. But I am as certain that the DNA belongs to Mr. Stein (the accused) as I am certain that aliens did not just land right outside this court house.
Lawyer: AH HA! Your honor, I would like to disqualify Dr. Langly as an expert on DNA evidence because he is clearly nuts. He just admitted that he believes in aliens.
******************
Do you guys understand what my point is? What Stein did to Dawkins is downright immoral. I hope Stein will burn in the christian hell for breaking at least 1 of his god's commandments.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 178 of 438 (464326)
04-24-2008 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by molbiogirl
04-24-2008 3:33 AM


Re: wishful thinking.....read Darwin's comments
Thanks for the info, mol! I never thought anyone would ever want or need to quote-mine hitler.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 184 of 438 (465137)
05-03-2008 12:47 PM


Did anyone see that Ben Stein's interview yesterday? I forgot which show. I was watching it while waiting in a hotel lounge.
Stein was ridiculing the very idea of aliens or any other god except for the christian god for being a possible candidate for the designer. His case was that the christian god should be considered to a possibility but when asked about other gods or aliens Stein just hand waved it off and said it was ridiculous to think that an intelligent designer could be aliens or whatnot.
The thing that I don't understand is that the ID movement have been trying very hard to not associate themselves (publically at least) to christianity. Wouldn't Stein's obvious bias for the christian god on public television undermine all of this effort?
BTW, I think this interview was on fox. Not sure.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 186 of 438 (465142)
05-03-2008 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by bluegenes
05-03-2008 1:24 PM


He didn't say "christian god" but he implied it. When asked about aliens, he scoffed at the idea. When asked about hindu gods and such, he scoffed at the idea. Then he said that he believed "god" to be the intelligent designer. Seems pretty obvious to me.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 188 of 438 (465144)
05-03-2008 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by bluegenes
05-03-2008 2:06 PM


Uh, if you didn't know it's the same god.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 190 of 438 (465153)
05-03-2008 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by bluegenes
05-03-2008 4:34 PM


Well, then fine he was implying the jewish god. Doesn't really matter. What matters is he was ridiculing possibility of aliens or the gods of other cultures but somehow expected us to believe that the true intelligent designer had to be his god.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 194 of 438 (465193)
05-03-2008 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Buzsaw
05-03-2008 6:15 PM


Buzsaw writes:
I believe it was Bill O'Reilly who did the interview.
I know who bill is. It wasn't him.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 196 of 438 (465199)
05-03-2008 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Buzsaw
05-03-2008 11:27 PM


Re: O'Reilly/Stein Interview
Yeah, this wasn't the interview I saw. I was waiting for some people at a hotel when I saw this.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 198 of 438 (465246)
05-04-2008 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Rrhain
05-04-2008 3:24 AM


Re: Paul Crouch, Jr./Stein interview
Nope.
ABE
Remember that the interview was on Friday. It's probably hasn't been added to youtube yet.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 202 of 438 (465304)
05-04-2008 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Buzsaw
05-04-2008 10:26 PM


Re: Glenn Beck, Stein, CNN?
Not what I saw. Again, this interview was last friday, not last year. Just wait. I'm sure someone will add it to youtube later.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 207 of 438 (466694)
05-16-2008 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Percy
05-15-2008 8:58 PM


Re: Glenn Beck, Stein, CNN?
No, that's not it. The interview I saw both Stein and that other guy ridiculed the idea that the IDer could have been aliens or the various polytheistic gods (they weren't powerful enough!). But immediately after they ridiculed those things, Stein said that he believed "god" (referring to his own god) to be the designer and the other guy agreed up and down.
I'll post it as soon as I find it on youtube. I think that particular interview was the best demonstration of the judeo-christian agenda for imposing religion into the scientific community and people's everyday life.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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