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Author Topic:   Evolution is simple. What's to disagree with?
Wumpini
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Message 7 of 13 (464646)
04-27-2008 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by RAZD
04-27-2008 6:09 PM


Do I qualify as an evophobe?
Now we wait for the evophobes to comment?
I am not sure if I qualify as an evophobe, so you may not want my comments. I will attempt to humor you anyway.
I would not say that I disagree with any of your observations or conclusions with the exception of conclusion number 5 and your theory. It appears that all of the other observations and conclusions relate to micro evolution.
I do not see where your observations and conclusions supports your theory. You give no evidence that your observations or conclusions would allow changes to move between species. It is not sufficient to show that one species can experience changes. There must be evidence to show that these changes can give rise to new species. I don't know that species is the proper scientific jargon, but I think you get the idea.
When I was in school they had these pictures of apes evolving into men. If I understand these forums, then that is no longer the accepted theory. It appears that you are proposing that apes and men evolved from something else. They have a common ancestor. To help me along with your observations and conclusions, maybe you can describe how this process worked in simple terms that I can understand. How did an amino acid or a protein with no genetic code turn into an intelligent human being?
Or maybe you can give me a link that would show me the pictures of macro evolution that the science world is using today.

"There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce

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Wumpini
Member (Idle past 5784 days)
Posts: 229
From: Ghana West Africa
Joined: 04-23-2008


Message 10 of 13 (464668)
04-27-2008 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Percy
04-27-2008 7:34 PM


Thank you for your response
The topic is evolution is simple. I still have many questions before I can be convinced that evolution is simple.
I still do not understand how the changes can cross the lines of species. I will have to study more on the subject to see the line of descent that is being proposed. Where exactly did man come from? Why are there not abundant transitional forms in the fossil record? How did the reproductive system evolve? How did complex structures such as the eye and ear evolve when they require all of the interrelated parts? I agree that small changes can occur over time. I also agree that given enough time these changes could be significant. However, these small changes cannot account for the creation of systems that are extremely complex and have interrelated parts.
I know that evolution does not take into account the origin of life, but that needs to be considered also. Without life in the first place, there can be no evolution. If we are going to attribute supernatural causes to the origin of life, then we need to consider that there could have been supernatural causes throughout the process.
It is past midnight in this part of the world, so I will have to continue this discussion and study tomorrow.
In the local language of Dagbani here we would say "Nawuni ti gom." May God give us sleep.

"There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce

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