Spherical Issues

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Why do you accept some abstract concepts and not others? What is it that makes you right and everybody else wrong.

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You have postured your conclusion with a total absence of reality. My premise is supported by the most fundamentals of science and maths: anything with a beginning must have an end and a centre. The novel and controversial is the premise a 'surface' does not have a centre [the only desperate evidence], and that the universe has no borders. But everything which is actual and real - contradicts that premise: if in doubt just look around you. Get it right.

But, see, that's where you're wrong (again). The most fundamental science and "maths" show that not everything has a beginning, an end and a center. That is your own, flawed interpretation of that. I can look around me right now and see a little ball on my desk. I can look at the surface of that ball and I can see that there is no special point on the surface, all points are identitcal, meaning none of them are a center. Get it right.

Actually it's Euclidian and both Newton and Einstein went along for the ride standing on his shoulders. In 2005 they formed a human pyramid, and it was really cool. In 2016, to commemorate the centennial anniversary of the GR, they're doing it on a unicycle.Might I dare suggest that appeals to Einstein isn't a good strategy move. Oh yeah, that's right. You're going to make up Einstein's ideas as well.

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KindlyTa-da ≠ QED

I am so sorry. You are so right. Einstein is on your side. Despite the fundamentals of calculus being intrinsic to every piece of mathematics that Einstein's theories rely upon I am sure that he would agree with you that a spherical surface has a centre and that we are at the centre of the universe.Why did I not see it before?IAJ you are beyond help. I really do feel sorry for you. It must be genuinely hard work to be this delusional.Farewell and see you in another thread. But rest assured that I will never be able to take anything you say with any seriousness again.You are indeed the man of many corners in the circle of life. And for that I salute you.

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But, see, that's where you're wrong (again). The most fundamental science and "maths" show that not everything has a beginning, an end and a center. That is your own, flawed interpretation of that. I can look around me right now and see a little ball on my desk. I can look at the surface of that ball and I can see that there is no special point on the surface, all points are identitcal, meaning none of them are a center. Get it right.

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Did you say 'surface'? Did you say special points? That's just the issue with what you call fundamental: a surface example is a desperate clinging to when there is nothing real - and if you look at another place on the ghostly *surface* of your ball, you will see another special and non-special point. Looking is a form of changing positions - because it is the same thing: a different position's perspective.I got it right. I am not quagmired in a ghostly surface nor am I blind to points everywhichway.Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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Actually it's Euclidian and both Newton and Einstein went along for the ride

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Actually, its casino maths, and it is applied eronously today by neo-science desperate to invent what is not there. Mixing an academic to make actuality conclusions is a slight of hand. It was never intended that way - it is common acceotance one cannot prove something actual solely via an academic. Maths cannot be used that way.

There is little time and we have so much to learn. Will you share with us IamJoseph's Elements that we might begin to construct a true geometry?Edited by lyx2no, : No edit.

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KindlyTa-da ≠ QED

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Despite the fundamentals of calculus being intrinsic to every piece of mathematics that Einstein's theories rely upon I am sure that he would agree with you that a spherical surface has a centre and that we are at the centre of the universe.

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Einstein's theories were not used that way nor can one use calculus by itself. In fact, Einstein's theories were physically verified.Everything has a centre or many centres - no such thing as a centreless or borderless sphere or universe, and these are not proven via 'surfaces'. One cannot use calculus to prove that a physical sphere does not have a centre in one's imagination ['surface']; it has centres everywhichway. And there is nothing else in the bag but polterguist. Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

Have you discovered anything else aside from a ghostly surface which is centreless and borderless? How about the spirit and soul of a square? Or maybe the omen of a triangle? Shall we try for an aspiration in yea olde red house?

Will you reveal the elements that I might learn?

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KindlyTa-da ≠ QED

Crank

Which preceded - the centre or the elements? Caution: thread carefully.

You can travel to the surface of the moon. And someone else can do that too - and both of you will be standing in different positions and still be upon the moon's surface and claim that both are centres. You can repeat that wondrous feat on a big ball too. Magic, no!?

This has transcended the ludicrous. There simply are shapes with no centre. It doesn't matter if you think that is "casino science", it is true.Again, if you believe that the Earth's surface has a centre, could you please say where it is? Don't say stuff about "actuals", "academics", e.t.c. Just name the place. For example London, England. That is all you have to do.

I don't use the term academic when dimensions are given.If one stands in London Soho, and based on the earth being a sphere, then the centre of the surface of the earth is here:LONDON SOHO.If you move to a different position, say NY, NY, the centre of the earth will be here:NY, NY.These positions become centres by virtue of being equidistant no matter which orbit is taken from and back to those points. The depiction of more than one centre does not negate the centre premise, but makes it relative to one's position; if we leave the sphere entirely and look at it from afar, wherever we look is the centre - here, the eye acts as the subjective position.