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Absence of Evidence..............

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Message 14 of 138 (467754)
05-24-2008 12:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
05-22-2008 11:14 AM

Straggler writes:
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Why should we believe in, or make concessions to, anything for which there is no physical evidence?
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That would be entirely up to you.
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Why would people buy something called life insurance when they have to die for their beneficary to collect?
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Straggler there are many things that science does not have an answer for. But scientist keep looking for the answers in the hopes that one day they will find the answer.
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When it comes to God and if a person has a spirit that will live forever I do not have empirical evidence .
But one day I will have empirical evidence. It is similar to the life insurance except my beneficary won't have the evidence one way or the other but I will. The same goes for everybody as the last time I checked the death rate was 100%.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 16 of 138 (467790)
05-24-2008 11:33 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by Rahvin
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Rahvin writes:
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You've given no reason whatsoever to believe anything you say.
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That is entirely up to you.
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BTW I stated a fact that when I die I will know if I am right or wrong.
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When you die you will know if you are right or wrong.
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That has nothing to do with what you believe or do not believe, what I believe or do not believe, Pascal's Wager, or any other kind of wager.
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As of today the death rate is still 100%.
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05-24-2008 3:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by bluegenes
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bluegenes writes:
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That is not a fact. You do not know whether you will know anything at all when you die.
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You are partly right. Because if your belief system is correct I will never get the answer.
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But if my belief system is correct you will have all the evidence you need to convince you.
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Sometimes you do not know the results of the experiment until it is finished. You can get some pretty good ideas along the way but you do not have the evidence until the results are in.
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bluegenes writes:
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As of today, the evidence that anyone knows anything after their deaths is absolute 0.
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Agreed but I was not talking about evidence today.
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Just like science is looking for evidence of how the universe came into existence. They hope that someday they will have the answer. But as of the moment there is only some wild ideas being thrown around.
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But because they don't know does not mean the universe is not here because it is.
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God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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05-24-2008 7:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Straggler
05-24-2008 3:30 PM

Re: Irrelevant
Straggler writes:
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ICANT writes:
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When it comes to God and if a person has a spirit that will live forever I do not have empirical evidence.
Which is why I suggest it is fundamentally silly idea. Borne of wishful thinking and philosophical bias with no basis in truth whatsoever.
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ICANT writes:
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But one day I will have empirical evidence.
No you won't.
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I went back and bolded the word if in the first part of the quote.
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IF there is a God and IF man has a spirit that will live forever would you please explain to me how I will not have empirical evidence.
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God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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05-25-2008 8:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 52 by Straggler
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Re: Irrelevant
Straggler writes:
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Will you please explain to me how you will have empirical evidence?
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The first thing is I will be alive, I will see God and then Grandma and Grandpa, Daddy and the whole gang.
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I will even get to see you and you can do your own verification at some point in the future. Would that be verifiable enough for you.
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Remember all this is contigent upon that IF.
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God Bless,
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05-27-2008 3:22 AM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Straggler
05-26-2008 5:30 PM

Re: Irrelevant
Hi Stragler,
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I would like to answer your message 59 but I better not in a science thread. Send me an e-mail and I will answer.
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God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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