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Author Topic:   Christianity: For entertainment purposes only?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 10 of 64 (468210)
05-28-2008 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brian
05-28-2008 7:18 AM


But, why should it only be Spiritualist churches that are affected by this?
Do they charge a fee for their readings?
Surely all churches should carry this disclaimer as they have about as much proof about the information that they promote as the spiritualists do?
But they don't charge anything... Its not a Commercial practice.
So, should your local church have a “for entertainment purposes only” sign outside their building, and should the minister, priest, pastor, or whatever, inform their congregation that everything they are going to read and hear for the remainder of the service is for entertainment purposes only?
Only if they selling something.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 12 of 64 (468217)
05-28-2008 12:49 PM
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05-28-2008 12:26 PM


Some do, some don't. the one I went to doesn't, but there's a collection tray passed round if you wish to donate.
I haven't read the Directive but it seems that it only applies to services that are charged for. Maybe since some do and some don't, the Directive just blankets them all.
Oh indeed they do charge!
Funerals and weddings are 2 examples. Ministers expect a donation for these 'services'. Getting married before God and all that, well the onus now has to be that the minister should provide proof of this claim.
You do get proof that you have been married and that a funeral has been performed.
They could get around the "before god" part by not charging for that service and just charging for the other stuff around it. But it depends on how the Directive is worded.
Only if they selling something.
Like indulgences?
If the church is selling indulgences then they would fall under this Directive and should be labeled as for entertainment only.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 14 of 64 (468225)
05-28-2008 2:04 PM
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05-28-2008 1:46 PM


Re: M'lud?
the issue has to do with the established misleader proving his misleading wasn't intentional.
How do you prove your intention?
And if it is just proving your intention, then I take back that churches should have the sign for selling indulgences because if they aren't intending to mislead people (and truly elieve in the indulgence) then they wouldn't be going against the Directive.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 16 of 64 (468229)
05-28-2008 2:47 PM
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05-28-2008 2:19 PM


Re: M'lud?
If you are at a 'psychic night' and someone is claiming to give you a message from a dead relative and doesn't state that the information is for information purposes only, then who do you inform about this criminal offence?
If they aren't charging you for it then it isn't a Commercial Practice and it wouldn't be covered by the Directive.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 18 of 64 (468235)
05-28-2008 3:15 PM
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05-28-2008 3:08 PM


I've never been to a free psychic night.
I don't think you can charge, say 15 for a ticket, then give a reading without making the entertainment pronouncement, can't be as easy as that.
If they're charging then its a Commercial Practice and, according to this Directive, they should be informing people that its for entertainmen only.
But if Spiritualist churches, which is an established religion, APPEARS to be getting discriminated against here.
Would Spiritualist churches be exempt if they just asked for voluntary donations?
I don't know. But it seems like it could work. If they weren't "Commercial Practices".

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