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Author Topic:   Why Lie? (Re: Evolution frauds and hoaxes)
Dr Adequate
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Message 5 of 346 (469166)
06-04-2008 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dont Be a Flea
06-03-2008 11:19 PM


If evolution is such a sound science, why are there so many forgeries?
There aren't.
You have managed to come up with a grand list of three actual forgeries and three things which, in fact, are not forgeries, over a period of over 130 years. Compare that to the total number of fossils discovered. (At a conservative estimate, about 100,000 species.) On the evidence, therefore, such hoaxes are extremely rare.
They are, on the other hand, practically the only fossils that creationists dare to discuss, because real fossils don't support their fantasies.
With so many frauds, the evolutionary family tree is thinning of the fossil evidence necessary to give credence to their theories.
The number of fossils found per year is enormous. You have pointed out three found to be fraudulent in 130 years. At this rate, obviously, the evidence for evolution is constantly increasing, not "thinning".
Why the lies, Don't Be a Flea? Can't you argue for creationism without telling whoppers?
... oh, I forgot. No, you can't.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 124 of 346 (469710)
06-06-2008 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Dont Be a Flea
06-06-2008 11:26 PM


So I can be right AND wrong, about the same thing, and that’s OK?
No. This is why no-one has ever said any such thing to you.
To you 10,000 years (give or take a few centuries) is OK only because you ASSUME that there are 4.6 Billion years to play with.
No. This is why no-one has ever said any such thing to you.
Science has not proven the age of the earth ...
Let me ask you something. You tell us this lie. Do you think that it will convince us?
... plus or minus 1% is stated as fact in textbooks and on websites. This to me is fudging the truth. If you don’t know say, you don’t know.
That's a classic. You have no idea why that's so funny, do you?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 125 of 346 (469711)
06-07-2008 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Dont Be a Flea
06-06-2008 11:45 PM


Re: Iggy Wiggy, Im a Piggy.......
I have just had some of the most arrogant pompous asses all looking down their noses as me because I challenge what they so religiously assume. I am called "ignorant" because I have the gall to say "hey wait a minute, you are not making any logical sense." I am told to just shut up and “believe” or “trust” the experts and keep my “hillbilly” self under a rock. Evolutionists are not special ultra smart untouchable people that have a pure heart and never lie, never do things for money of fame (because they are scientist stupid) and always, always show the truth with no bias EVER. Please! The very essence of one’s world view dictates what one will pursue as truth.
No, you are called ignorant because you are in fact disgustingly, pathetically, pitifully ignorant. You rave and scream and shout in public about something that you know fuck-all about. You are very very ignorant. That is why people call you ignorant. It's 'cos you are, in fact, ignorant. And then you have to make up halfwitted daydreams to explain to yourself why people call you ignorant. People call you ignorant because you are ignorant. You are ignorant. Now fuck off and learn something.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 147 of 346 (470079)
06-09-2008 9:37 AM


We appear to have seen more lies from a single creationist in a single thread than he can point to in the last 150 years of biology.
So, the question arises, why all the lies?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 201 of 346 (470831)
06-12-2008 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by randman
06-12-2008 6:07 PM


Re: Haeckels Folly
Evos are claiming that Haeckel's drawings are "evidence for evolution" so in fact, they are indeed trying to use faked data as evidence. If you notice the quotes, you'd see that despite creationists and perhaps others detailing Haeckel's fraud from the 1800s until this very day, evos have continued to try to use the fraudulent data during that whole time.
As criticism becomes more intense (the internet helped), evos tend to back off but as we see in the 2002 paper, it's typically only a few short years before they are back at it again, trying to promote the biogenetic law in some form or another.
Evos are claiming that Haeckel's drawings are "evidence for evolution" so in fact, they are indeed trying to use faked data as evidence. If you notice the quotes, you'd see that despite creationists and perhaps others detailing Haeckel's fraud from the 1800s until this very day, evos have continued to try to use the fraudulent data during that whole time.
As criticism becomes more intense (the internet helped), evos tend to back off but as we see in the 2002 paper, it's typically only a few short years before they are back at it again, trying to promote the biogenetic law in some form or another.
* sigh *
And again, the question arises --- why lie?
We all know that you're lying, whom do you hope to deceive?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 249 of 346 (471486)
06-17-2008 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by Minnemooseus
06-17-2008 1:15 AM


Re: Nebraska man
Was it the scientists that were doing these reconstructions?
The man who found the tooth described them as "a figment of the imagination of no scientific value, and undoubtedly inaccurate".

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