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Author Topic:   Cali Supreme Court ruling on legality of same-sex marriage ban
BMG
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Message 310 of 448 (469077)
06-03-2008 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by Fosdick
06-03-2008 12:20 PM


Re: Rrhain's blindness
You may as well be calling for same-sex public rest rooms, using the argument that separate-but-equal is unfair sexual discrimination.
Hi Hoot.
I think you have it backwards. If there were same-sex public rest rooms that would be an example of separate but equal, just as having colored restrooms and drinking fountains was separate but equal, and, most importantly, unconstitutional.
Rrhain, you and others here are advancing an argument that is purely opinion and nothing more.
Opinion is a claim that is not supported by premises. Rrhain and others have done nothing but provide arguments in favor of equality and equal protection under the law.
There is no inherently moral right or legal entitlement that empowers homosexuals,...or any group that wants special treatment under the law.
As has been said repeatedly, the 14th amendment warrants equal protection under the law: equal, not special.
I’m afraid all that is only a matter of opinion and choice, not a matter of morality or heritability.
Again, as has been said by Rrhain and others, whether it is by choice or not is completely irrelevant. The law does not discriminate against followers of any religion, which is by choice, or against members of any racial group, which is heritable, and not by choice.
Here’s the bottom line, Rrhain. Let the homosexuals have their civil unions so that they can no longer claim to be legally disadvantaged.
Again, as said before, civil unions are the very definition of being disadvantaged. Separate and equal are negatives. Something cannot be separate and in the same breath be called equal, just as something cannot be called round and in the same breath be called not round.

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BMG
Member (Idle past 208 days)
Posts: 357
From: Southwestern U.S.
Joined: 03-16-2006


Message 314 of 448 (469207)
06-04-2008 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 311 by Fosdick
06-03-2008 5:23 PM


Re: What about same-sex polygamy?
Then everything is fine and dandy. Since homosexuals have the same rights I do they are already equal to me under the law. You'll say that homosexuals are not equal because they can't have "same-sex marriages." Well, I can't have a legally sanctioned polygamous marriage either, even if I wanted one. So why aren't you out there banging the gong for legalized polygamy?
A recent post in response to the "all homosexuals have the same rights I do already" is in Message 306.
The law discriminates against polygamists. Why are you forgetting about them? They might want to call you a bigot.
I didn't forget about them. In fact, others have already responded to this. In Message 74 you brought up polygamy, and Sub responded to you in Message 84.
Why can't "marriage" be reserved for heterosexuals?
Why can't the front of the bus be reserved for whites?
Why do homosexuals feel the need to horn in on that?
It's a question of rights, and the lack thereof. This has been hashed out in previous posts.
Look, I'm a fool, and the farthest thing from an expert on the topic, but even I can understand the crux of the issue of homosexuals being denied rights that come with marriage. And with this, I'll excuse myself from this thread.
Edited by Infixion, : Grammar
Edited by Infixion, : No reason given.

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