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Author Topic:   Where Science And The Bible Meet
bluescat48
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Message 131 of 208 (469219)
06-04-2008 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by ICANT
06-04-2008 10:41 AM


Re: Re-Science and Bible
Force writes:

life is not simply in the blood. I suggest you do a little research on what life is considered now days in contrast to what life was considered 4000 years ago.

Would you please explain to me what life has to do with life of the flesh?

Are you saying that you could take all the corpusles out of your blood (the little supertankers that carry oxygen and energy supply to each cell in your flesh) and your flesh could still exist?

What he is saying is that there are other factors besides the blood that factor in to the "life of the flesh." Take away any of a number of organs or systems and the flesh dies. Try living with no liver, lungs, digestive tract, kidneys, or brain.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969


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bluescat48
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Message 163 of 208 (506956)
04-30-2009 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Perdition
04-30-2009 10:37 AM


Re: Re-Science and Bible
or one could say that this does not occur among fundies since they are apparently "Brain Dead."


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 165 of 208 (507084)
05-01-2009 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by ochaye
05-01-2009 7:36 AM


Re: Re-Science and Bible
The Bible needs to be understood in the context of those for whom it was originally written.

It would surely help if people did that instead of looking at it through 21st century eyes. In a sense, science updates & corrects what was believed at the time of the Biblical writings.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 172 of 208 (507362)
05-04-2009 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Peg
05-04-2009 7:02 AM


Re: Re-Science and Bible
Peg writes:

there are plenty of non-blood alternatives that are better then blood.

Michamus writes:

And those would be...?

Peg writes:

Gelafusine, Rheomacrodex, Macrodex, Saline, Hartmanns solution, Ringers solution, Darrows solution, Hypotonic saline, Destrose saline...etc

all stuff they use to increase fluid volume

So are you dsaying one should get rid of blood a replace it with
Gelafusine, Rheomacrodex....

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 179 of 208 (507608)
05-06-2009 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Asteragros
05-06-2009 5:57 PM


Re: Magical life-force
Asteragros writes:

On the contrary, do you really understand what constitutes life? I’m sick and tired about discourses like: “this text was writed for ancient gawks that didn’t know this or that…”. If this would be the point the future inhabitants of this planet (two or three centuries from now) will have to guffaw on our puerile views about, for example, physics (“the 21th century primitive peoples didn’t comprehend in what physical context can be encapsulate the two apparently states of the light: wave or particle? What a simple men they were!”). Granted, the Bible is a complex book, but this lofty attitude as regards the people that received this text is not useful at all. What we called “science” today has not a conclusive structure but a dynamic one. Paul Valéry once said “We have to call Science only the ensemble of the successful recipes. And all the rest of it is literature”.

I would certainly hope that the future humans will consider us as archaic. If not then humans will have regressed . Throughout the civilized history of humans each succeeding era has thrown out archaic ideas or modified others. As long as this occurred civilization advances. The point is that the writings of a particular era reflect that era. When one tries to use this in a modern context then one gets to the problems that exist between ie: creationists & evolutionists.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 194 of 208 (507899)
05-08-2009 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Asteragros
05-08-2009 4:05 PM


Asteragros writes:

a) My message (#186) to BlueScat48 was an objection to the idea that the ancient peoples were, by definition, more “regressed” (using his own terminology) respect to us. In other world, by analogy, we would be, as regards the knowledge of the universe phenomena, compared to the ancient peoples, like graduates compared to those attending the primary school.

I think you missed my point.

Me writes:

I would certainly hope that the future humans will consider us as archaic. If not then humans will have regressed

My point is that man must continue to strive for answers and not blindly accept older concepts. I'm not saying that primitive people were any less intelligent than we are today. What I am bringing up is that certain knowledge could not be gained until certain other things were found out. If we stop trying to improve on own own knowledge we will regress.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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