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Author Topic:   How Do Scientists Believe in God and Evolution?
obvious Child
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Message 76 of 145 (468984)
06-02-2008 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Wumpini
05-04-2008 6:26 PM


A fundamental problem you are using is that you discount the existence of other Gods. Furthermore, only one interpretation, a literal one of Genesis creates the problem between evolution and Biblical Theism. Remove this interpretation or apply a belief in a different religion or God and the problem of accepting God and Evolution disappears.

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obvious Child
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Message 79 of 145 (469097)
06-03-2008 8:04 PM
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06-03-2008 7:54 PM


Therefore your argument is if someone wrote it down, it is therefore true.
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There are numerous references to Creation in the New Testament. What do I do about those? Do I remove those interpretations also?
Don't take them literally. Literal creationism literally makes the world stop working.

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obvious Child
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Message 91 of 145 (469145)
06-04-2008 2:55 AM
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06-03-2008 10:00 PM


Except that the logic is completely different. There is no evidence that the Bible is actually the inspired Word of God any more then the Koran is the inspired word of Allah, any more then the Holy Book of the IPU is the inspired word of the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Your argument is if someone wrote it down, it must be true.
There is no evidence for the validity of your claim where dating fossils and rocks actually does have evidence.
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What parts of the Bible can be taken literally by a scientist who believes in the God of the Bible?
The parts obviously mean to be taken literally. It's called reason. Please use it.

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obvious Child
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Message 99 of 145 (469242)
06-04-2008 5:55 PM
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06-04-2008 7:00 AM


Re: Evidence
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Have you actually studied any apologetics related to the Bible or are you only saying this because it is what everyone else says on this website?
A bit of both. It doesn't change the fact that your argument is if someone wrote it down, it must be true.
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If you have studied apologetics then you know that there is much more evidence for the Bible then there is for the Holy Book of IPU. You are obviously not willing to look at that evidence.
Where you mean 'evidence' is actually your faith.

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obvious Child
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Message 100 of 145 (469244)
06-04-2008 6:40 PM
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06-04-2008 4:34 AM


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Those who are interpreting the evidence that does exist are most surely doing so with bias. They look at the evidence as if God does not exist. Therefore, their interpretations and their conclusions could be incorrect.
Yeah, a bias of sanity. Furthermore, just because Biblical Genesis is total crap doesn't mean that "God" doesn't exist. The entire bible could be wrong and that does not effect the validity of Thor, Hera, Isis or Vishnu.
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I do not agree that the global flood has been disproved.
Because you haven't looked at the evidence.
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The flood is portrayed as an actual event in the book of Genesis and referenced many times in the New Testament.
Doesn't mean that it actually happened on a global scale.
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However, the only acceptable theory to me is the one that is in the Bible.
You mean story. A theory requires facts. Your belief has none.

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obvious Child
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Message 128 of 145 (469489)
06-05-2008 7:11 PM
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06-05-2008 5:28 AM


Re: Evidence
except that anyone can see that you substitute evidence with faith.
Furthermore you're still using the dishonest argument that only one god exists.

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