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Author Topic:   Is the bible the word of God or men?
Force
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Message 105 of 309 (437799)
12-01-2007 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by IamJoseph
12-01-2007 7:51 AM


Re: Obstinate Rubbish
Joseph,
You have to look at the entirety of evidence not just that the universe is finite. Use all methods of information such as Theology/Philosophy, Biology, Cosmology, Archaeology, Physics, and whatever else you can use. If there is a shred of evidence that contradicts a current theory then you have a error in theory. Then you have to look at which theory is more plausible. Physics projects specific information about gravity that the Bible contradicts such as Moses parting the Red sea. Philosphy/Theology can shed light on the many contradictions contained in the Bible. Biology can shed light on the errors in the Bible when speaking of reproduction methods. Take for example how the Bible only mentions male and female for Humans. What about the other great species that are among us? There is no mention of them. What you're doing is believing in God of the Bible and then accepting only evidence that supports the Bible; which is not much. I mean; who cares if there are some documents in the Bible that speak of named places and people that existed. None of that is an indication that YHWH Elohim is a real God. A great indication that YHWH Elohim is a real God would be a prophecy with specific information, such as to date and time of a event, and then that event actually occuring. Please remember that the Bible can't verify the Bible.
Oh and last but not least you need to supply information/evidence that supports that those people(in your post) actually existed. You also need to supply information that can indicate a great flood that filled the planet. The issue is even if you are able to supply that information it still does not supply information that indicates YHWH Elohim is a real God. You're simpy verifying historical events that happened. Please use Reason for all issues. DOH.
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Force
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Message 110 of 309 (438114)
12-02-2007 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Granny Magda
12-02-2007 6:28 PM


Re: Obstinate Rubbish
Granny Magda,
You do realize Joseph is not going to learn anything here. It seems that Joseph does not follow evidence but instead he follows content. Anyways.
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Message 154 of 309 (438930)
12-06-2007 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by IamJoseph
12-03-2007 7:50 PM


Re: DEFINE 'INFINITY' - BEFORE QUESTIONING IT?
IAJ,
infinity: a unmeasurable space. Clap!!!!
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Message 182 of 309 (439196)
12-07-2007 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Granny Magda
12-07-2007 2:50 AM


Re: DEFINE 'INFINITY' - BEFORE QUESTIONING IT?
Granny Magda,
IAJ is clearly odd so just forget him and move on. LOL.
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Force
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Message 187 of 309 (439515)
12-08-2007 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by IamJoseph
12-08-2007 1:27 AM


Re: DEFINE 'INFINITY' - BEFORE QUESTIONING IT?
IAJ,
iaj writes:
I did not initiate this subject. A sentence which related to a 3000 year relic of king David and the original philistines, aroused a string of verbals and a history depiction which does not allign with this planet.
This planet?

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Message 189 of 309 (439529)
12-08-2007 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by IamJoseph
12-08-2007 11:25 PM


Re: DEFINE 'INFINITY' - BEFORE QUESTIONING IT?
IAJ,
How does that really relate to the topic of this thread? Do you not know how to request a new topic/thread?

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Message 192 of 309 (439659)
12-09-2007 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by IamJoseph
12-08-2007 11:59 PM


Re: DEFINE 'INFINITY' - BEFORE QUESTIONING IT?
IAJ,
I am talking about the entirety of your posts related to Palestine. Anyways. NM. Please don't respond to this post because this thread is ending.
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Message 282 of 309 (469457)
06-05-2008 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Brian
06-05-2008 3:40 PM


Re: Is the bible the word of God or men?
Brian,
Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was over.
Moses must have died from going 40 days and 40 nights with no bread or water... ROFLOL....
Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant”the Ten Commandments. When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the Testimony in his hands, he was not aware that his face was radiant because he had spoken with the LORD.

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To believe in "Force" is to believe in Love, Wisdom, Intelligence, Force, Agility, and Charm.

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Force
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Message 284 of 309 (469460)
06-05-2008 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by IamJoseph
06-05-2008 5:22 PM


Re: Is the bible the word of God or men?
IamJoseph,
you deal in a different reality my friend.... LOL... Can I come live with you? However, I will hate to admit this but historical factors are not provable because we can't learn about all of history due to the fact that it is history.
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Message 287 of 309 (469465)
06-05-2008 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Brian
06-05-2008 5:28 PM


Re: Is the bible the word of God or men?
Brian,
Ive noticed that about Joseph and thanks for pointing out the "truth" back in the discussion on "inerrant biblical manuscripts" in post 17.

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To believe in "Force" is to believe in Love, Wisdom, Intelligence, Force, Agility, and Charm.

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Force
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Message 299 of 309 (469732)
06-07-2008 2:20 AM
Reply to: Message 298 by Brian
06-06-2008 7:46 PM


Re: Is the bible the word of God or men?
Brian,
wiki writes:
The stele has gained much notoriety and fame for being the only Ancient Egyptian document generally accepted as mentioning "Isrir" or "Israel". It is also, by far, the earliest known attestation of Israel. For this reason, many scholars refer to it as the "Israel stele". This title is somewhat misleading because the stele is clearly not concerned about Israel” in fact, it mentions Israel only in passing. There is only one line about Israel: "Israel is wasted, bare of seed" or "Israel lies waste, its seed no longer exists" and very little about the region of Canaan. Israel is simply grouped together with three other defeated states in Canaan (Gezer, Yanoam and Ashkelon) in the stele. Merneptah inserts just a single stanza to the Canaanite campaigns but multiple stanzas to his defeat of the Libyans. The line referring to Merneptah's Canaanite campaign reads: Canaan is captive with all woe. Ashkelon is conquered, Gezer seized, Yanoam made nonexistent; Israel is wasted, bare of seed.
Merneptah Stele - Wikipedia
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To believe in "Force" is to believe in Love, Wisdom, Intelligence, Force, Agility, and Charm.

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