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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
quote:As NosyNed has pointed out, atheists are not all that way. I am that way, however, and I believe it is because of my past life as a "man of God." God has become a haunting part of my past, and interaction in this forum, on these topics, helps me to deal with it. A Bible College course titled: Philosophy of Biology convinced me that they had no evidence for creationism. That was in the old days when "scientific creationism" was an new and exciting buzz. I was very turned on about it at first but I was turned off soon enough. It was "Christian Experience," familiarity with the Bible, love of Nature and knowledge of biology which led me to call myself atheist. Sounds pretty strange huh? db ------------------"If God created Nature, then the Law of Nature is the Law of God."
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
Hi Scraff,
You know I have, in the past, called you "scraffy"; but considering how efficiently and venemously you take on characters like buzzsaw (as in your recent post on my thread) I should really call you "scrappy"! But this is an aside. The word "atheism" comes to us from the Greek atheos - "denying the gods," by way of the French - atheisme. Atheos appears to be a combination of theos - "god," plus the negative particle - a, "no" or "not." To me, a-theism means two things. 1. - That I don't believe in the concept of an invisible, immortal, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent Guy in the Sky. And,2. - That I am opposed to Theism, a philosophy which embraces the above mentioned Guy and seeks to bring me under His dominion. Theism is the power behind the throne where monarchy is practiced (that was a problem for Henry the Eighth). Theism is sometimes expressed through a form of government called Theocracy, wherein "God Rules" (through his priests, or ministers, or mullahs) I'm sure you've seen this arrangement. Most recently it has been called The Taliban. So "atheism" in my book, also means anti-theism; for theism leads to theocracy; and theocracy is hell on wheels. db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
Scrappy
quote:My Thorndike Barnhart defines theism as: 1 belief in one God, the creator and ruler of the universe. 2 belief in a deity or deities; religious faith or conviction. {< Greek theosgod} I would say that any theistic religion is a manifestation of theism. The simplest way to define the word religion is to look at its etymology < Latin re + ligion = tie again, or tie back; which suggests preservation, or conservation. That in itself does not require a theistic philosophy. Theism assumes an Overlord, usually invisible, all powerful, and all wise. Almost invariably (I can't think of a single instance to the contrary), it leads to the appearance of His envoy, prophet, vicar, ambassador, angel, avatar etc. whatever; His representative "on earth." The man in shining armor who stands before you with drawn sword is his judge. Will you serve the God of heaven and his appointed Lord, annointed king, duly elected representative, tax collector, ... Huh? Will ya? This is a time honored and highly, if temporarily, successful means of establishing the kingdom of whichever god seeks to rule the world of the moment. On a personal level, in a face to face encounter with his avatar, you're damned right I believe in him! Whatever you say Sir. This is worship of the True God. Everything else is just farting around.
quote: If it is profitable, or imagined to be in the interest of national security, ... Absolutely! Christians pray for the return of their King, whom they expect to govern this planet with a Rod of Iron. That prayer is not metaphorical. History teaches us to fear the king who knows God. You wicked (secular materialists) will be "worse off than Sodom and Gomorrah." {to quote Jesus} Does this answer your question? db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
quote:I don't know where you get your definition but the one you point up here is that of Thorndike Barnhart in their advanced dictionary. If you don't like it, take the matter up with them. quote:Advice which you seem to ignore in reference to yourself at the moment. quote:I believe I made it very clear that I am speaking for myself. quote:Thanks for noting that I am unique, or at least unusual. quote:And this hair splitting is not a semantic argument? quote:No. Now I understand how you feel. db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
Rrhain:
quote:You have apparently evolved beyond that stage of development. quote:I don’t know and I don’t care. quote:Mine. Or is there going to be a test? quote:Pretty sharp, aren’t you? quote:Don’t know. Don’t care. quote:Don’t know. Don’t care. quote:Indeed. quote:I do not pretend to speak for most atheists. db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
NosyNed
quote:Thanks Ned. I see that you, for one, know how to use a dictionary. quote:I believe that is called "weak atheism," and depending on the philosophical development of the individual, might become either agnosticism or "strong atheism." You apparently understood the intent of my post. db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2765 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
Quetzal:
quote:Thanks Quetzal. Seems to me that Rrhain would like to be the god of atheists, judge of the nonfaith, (or lack of faith). db ------------------Are you a Sunday School graduate?
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