Catholic Scientist writes:
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Second, they don't have a Constitutional right for what I am supposedly denying them in the first place.
Incorrect.
As Loving v. Virginia pointed out, marriage is a fundamental right.
Did you not read any of the CSC decision? They go on and on about how marriage is a fundamental right.
As discussed below, upon review of the numerous California decisions that have examined the underlying bases and significance of the constitutional right to marry (and that illuminate why ), we conclude that, under this state’s Constitution, the constitutionally based right to marry properly must be understood to encompass the core set of basic substantive legal rights and attributes traditionally associated with marriage that are so integral to an individual’s liberty and personal autonomy that they may not be eliminated or abrogated by the Legislature or by the electorate through the statutory initiative process. These core substantive rights include, most fundamentally, the opportunity of an individual to establish ” with the person with whom the individual has chosen to share his or her life ” an officially recognized and protected family possessing mutual rights and responsibilities and entitled to the same respect and dignity accorded a union traditionally designated as marriage. As past cases establish, the substantive right of two adults who share a loving relationship to join together to establish an officially recognized family of their own ” and, if the couple chooses, to raise children within that family ” constitutes a vitally important attribute of the fundamental interest in liberty and personal autonomy that the California Constitution secures to all persons for the benefit of both the individual and society.
What part of "this right has been recognized as one of the basic, inalienable civil rights guaranteed to an individual by the California Constitution" are you having trouble understanding?
As the Loving v. Virginia case stated:
The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.
What part of "vital person rights" are you having trouble understanding?
Then there's Skinnder v. Oklahoma that called marriage one of the "basic civil rights of man."
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Then you guys are saying that gays are the same basic thing as black people.
Indeed. You seem to be intimating that there is something wrong with that.
Both are human.
Both are citizens.
Both routinely have their fundamental rights denied.
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What a stupid thread this is.
Indeed.
It is always stupid to deny people their rights.
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