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Author Topic:   Why Lie? (Re: Evolution frauds and hoaxes)
Alasdair
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Message 319 of 346 (471686)
06-17-2008 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by Dont Be a Flea
06-17-2008 5:59 PM


Re: Five forged fossils
http://www.talkorigins.org/...mdesc/images/hominids2_big.jpg
D and E are homo habilis. G is a homo erectus. I don't really see much of a "missing link" here. Do you?

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Alasdair
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Message 320 of 346 (471688)
06-17-2008 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 318 by Dont Be a Flea
06-17-2008 6:03 PM


Re: Misleading Flea, with a misleading O.P.!!
Well you have done a good job of "overly speculating" and "fraud" by twisting the following scenarios into frauds by scientists:
1) 80 years ago, a scientist finds a tooth and speculates it belongs to a hominid. This is debunked by the scientific community 3 years later.
2) An hobbyist archaeologist comes into possession of a fake fossil. He refuses to show it to the scientific community, except for drawings. It is later debunked by the scientific community.
3) Two scientists argue over the details of hominid's recent evolutionary development.
Where is the fraud?
The closest I'm seeing is you being the fraud in twisting these scenarios so.

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Alasdair
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Message 330 of 346 (471700)
06-17-2008 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 326 by Dont Be a Flea
06-17-2008 6:41 PM


Re: Misleading Flea, with a misleading O.P.!!
It was discovered in 1922, and used at the Scopes trial in 1925. A nice rendering was done of a one million year old entire race of humanoid by Amedee Forestier who was especially interested in prehistoric man and loved to bring him to life, not by fictitious imaginings but by the most careful reconstructions based on scientific research, and who also drew of all things, Piltdown man.
The same “authorities” who “debunked” the discovery at one time, (even a short time) endorsed an entire race of humanity out of one pig’s tooth.
Surely, there is a lesson here for us concerning the reliability of so-called "expert testimony," which is so often used to manipulate and intimidate the layman.
Present your resources that show that Nebraska Man was used at the Scopes Trial.
Present your resources that the scientific community endorsed an entire race of humans out of the single tooth.
Present your resources that the illustration of the Nebraska "man" ever had relevance outside of a picture in a science magazine.
We've been over this. I have shown how this is all wrong. Now you are not ignorant. You are lying. Prove me wrong and present resources for each of the above points.
What are you referring to here? Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis?
Piltdown man.
And what is this? Is this KNM-ER 1470?
Yes.

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Alasdair
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Message 331 of 346 (471701)
06-17-2008 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by Dont Be a Flea
06-17-2008 6:44 PM


Re: Five forged fossils
No, it doesn't need the fossil record. It's just the easiest to visualize, especially for the layman.
When it was first proposed in Darwin's time, there really wasn't a fossil record to go on.
Maybe you should do a bit of reading on the subject before you try to debunk it?

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