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bluegenes
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Message 61 of 402 (473919)
07-03-2008 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by John 10:10
07-03-2008 2:38 PM


You're an ape, John
John 10:10 writes:
Show us the evidence that the evolutionary model works from start to finish?
I can show you conclusive evidence that you descend from a common ancestor with the chimps, John. Do you want to see it, or does that frighten your cowardly soul?
Edited by bluegenes, : removed misleading word

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bluegenes
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Message 69 of 402 (473935)
07-03-2008 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by John 10:10
07-03-2008 6:38 PM


Re: You're an ape, John
JohnTheSimian writes:
I know whom I descended from, and into whose family I now belong to. You may join the apes if you like.
I think you're scared of the truth, John. A frightened little ape, hiding behind his Bible. The evidence is there, John, in every cell of your body there is information, visible only with a microscope, that tells us that you're an ape.
There's no scientific doubt of this, John. But if you're scared of the truth, don't ask to see my evidence.

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bluegenes
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Message 79 of 402 (473963)
07-04-2008 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by John 10:10
07-03-2008 8:37 PM


Re: You're an ape, John
Johnboy writes:
bluegenius writes:
I think you're scared of the truth, John. A frightened little ape, hiding behind his Bible. The evidence is there, John, in every cell of your body there is information, visible only with a microscope, that tells us that you're an ape.
Is this the best dialogue that evolutionists can descend to?
We'll see, John. What I'm doing is telling you about yourself, both your biological simian self, and your psychological self. It's quite easy, because I know from experience that creationist Christians are invariably frightened of facing up to the scientific truths about their biological selves. I've never met an exception. I can smell the fear through cyberspace, Johnboy.
Yes, every cell of my body knows exactly where it belongs and where every other cell is.
Really? All your cells are sentient? I do think you need a biology lesson, John. For a start, what do all your cells have that might tell us about your simian ancestry? (The clue is in my eponymous picture).
Just how do you think it figured this all out without a Designer/Creator?
We'll get onto that later, Johnboy. Biology class first, then philosophy class. Agreed?
Now, are you too scared to ask me for my special information that demonstrates your true simian nature? That is the question, as the great Bard said.

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bluegenes
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Message 94 of 402 (474005)
07-04-2008 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by John 10:10
07-04-2008 10:32 AM


Johnboy the Ape
John writes:
One starts with observing things as ther are. Then one begins the process of understanding how things became as they are. And finally one proves the process by replicating the process time and time again until one knows with reasonable accuracy that the test results are true. This is what true science is all about. This is why the evolutionary process is shear speculation,
So, in order for a geologist to tell us that the Hawaiian Islands were formed by volcanic activity, he has to recreate them time and time again by volcanic activity? What a strange fantasy world you live in, my little simian friend. Presumably you're campaigning to stop murder trials for all cases in which there are no eye-witnesses, on the basis that we can never discover things about the past through observing the present.
Evolution can be observed happening in real time, of course, but I think you're concerned with history.
Therefore, I think it's time for you to overcome your fears. You arrived on the site proclaiming loudly that evolutionary theory has no evidence to back it, so what of our famous claim that humans and chimps descend from a common ancestral species?
Well, in every cell in your body you have the scars of damage that happened to that ancestral species, and even more that happened in species that were ancestral to it. And so do your chimpanzee cousins. This is damage, not design, as you'll see.
This short video explains one of the lines of evidence that shows us for sure, John, that you are an ape.
I'm interested to see if you can still deceive yourself on the subject after watching it.
And you say we have no evidence? Eh?
That's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
Edited by bluegenes, : title added
Edited by bluegenes, : typo

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bluegenes
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Message 104 of 402 (474021)
07-04-2008 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
07-04-2008 1:23 PM


Don't be too hard on Johnboy, Doc. The Eastern Mountain Ape of North America, like the Bonobo of Africa, is known for its long term isolation from other Apes and its incestious behaviour.
Johnboy is currently in shock, because he didn't know he was an Ape yesterday, but now he does. Contact with civilization has traditionally been hard for the tribes of this remote, mountainous area, and strange primitive superstitions linger amongst them.
Information courtesy of EvC Primatology Department.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note - 3 day suspension because of this message

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